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Wattsthematter wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:35 pm

Is it Emmett Till?

No.

Is this person mainly famous for endeavours other than being involved in the civil rights movement?

cdngooner wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:55 pm

Is this person mainly famous for endeavours other than being involved in the civil rights movement?

Again, using the same restricted definition to 1954-1968: Yes.

Is this person's primary source of fame acting or athletics?

Mainly famous for something that happened prior to 1954?

Free guess: Duke Ellington

Aristocrat wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:01 pm

Is this person's primary source of fame acting or athletics?

Ah yes, this question was going to be asked at some point. Strictly speaking, I think that I have to answer "No." to this. But I will say that he has a notable connection to at least one of those two activities.

Hominidae wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:25 pm

Mainly famous for something that happened prior to 1954?

No.

wintergreen wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:32 pm

Free guess: Duke Ellington

No.

Was he primarily a musician, TV presenter, or criminal?

Free guess: Elijah Muhammad.

I think we're looking for someone who did notable things for the civil rights cause later than 1968.

Mentioned by name in this article? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post%E2%80%93civil_rights_era_in_African-American_history

You think? QM specifically referred us to a Wikipedia page for the 1954-1968 movement. Quite misleading if we are looking for another period.

cdngooner wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:51 pm

You think? QM specifically referred us to a Wikipedia page for the 1954-1968 movement. Quite misleading if we are looking for another period.

No, you need to go back and reread.

He said that this person was involved between 1954 and 1968. But look at Spartaculous's response when asked if the person was famous primarily for something other than the Civil Rights Movement. "Yes, under the strict definition of 1954-1968."

I didn't read that response from QM to relate to time, but to whether his famed activity fell within or without the definition of "civil rights movement." But we'll wait and see what QM has to say.

Was this person born on or after January 1, 1939?

cdngooner wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:06 pm

I didn't read that response from QM to relate to time, but to whether his famed activity fell within or without the definition of "civil rights movement." But we'll wait and see what QM has to say.

I read it as "Under the strict definition of 1954-1968, this person's biggest source of fame was not part of the Civil Rights Movement, but under a broader definition that isn't so restricted in time, this person's biggest source of fame was part of the movement." Otherwise, why would the QM have listed time as the "strict" part of the definition?

Hominidae wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:26 pm

cdngooner wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:06 pm

I didn't read that response from QM to relate to time, but to whether his famed activity fell within or without the definition of "civil rights movement." But we'll wait and see what QM has to say.

I read it as "Under the strict definition of 1954-1968, this person's biggest source of fame was not part of the Civil Rights Movement, but under a broader definition that isn't so restricted in time, this person's biggest source of fame was part of the movement." Otherwise, why would the QM have listed time as the "strict" part of the definition?

Best to wait until we hear from QM. In both of your defenses, it is a bit confusing, and clarity would be nice.

Hominidae wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:26 pm

cdngooner wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:06 pm

I didn't read that response from QM to relate to time, but to whether his famed activity fell within or without the definition of "civil rights movement." But we'll wait and see what QM has to say.

I read it as "Under the strict definition of 1954-1968, this person's biggest source of fame was not part of the Civil Rights Movement, but under a broader definition that isn't so restricted in time, this person's biggest source of fame was part of the movement." Otherwise, why would the QM have listed time as the "strict" part of the definition?

I think that the dates just bound what he considers "The Civil Rights Movement" it's the commonly accepted start and end dates, although there was more work before and after

So, DarthPorg asked me if the person was

DarthPorg36 wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:03 pm

Involved in the Civil Rights Movement?

Before I made a decision about how to answer the question, I had to decide how to define the "Civil Rights Movement", because this was not specified in the question. The term can be used specifically to refer to the "social movement and campaign from 1954 to 1968 in the United States to abolish legalized racial segregation, discrimination, and disenfranchisement in the country" (quoting from the first sentence of that Wikipedia page I cited).

The term could also have a broader use: for example, would people involved in the Black Lives Matter movement of the past decade be considered to be in the Civil Rights Movement? Some people might reasonably do so. But I decided specifically to restrict the "Civil Rights Movement" to the period 1954-1968.

As per the previous questions and my answers, the person to guess did have some involvement in this movement in that time frame. However, he is best known for something other than being involved with civil rights during that time frame. But that's something for you all to ask me more questions about...

cdngooner wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:40 pm

Free guess: Elijah Muhammad.

No.