MAFIA XXXVIII: INFINITY WAR

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bo_sox48 (3) yavuzovic ghug snowy801
flash2015 (3) dargorygel worcej Squigs44
dargorygel (2) rdrivera2005 damo666
BismarckAlive (1) y2kjbk
bozotheclown (1) Hellenic Riot
Squigs44 (1) flash2015
Jamiet99uk (1) ND
snowy801 (1) BismarckAlive
Unvote (1) Jamiet99uk
Foxcastle (1) brainbomb

End-votes (0/20): -

Non-votes: bozotheclown, bo_sox48, DoubtingThomas, Foxcastle, xorxes

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Isn't that just an alphabetical list?

I put the scummy folks in red and the goodies in green

What about for us colour blind folk? What am I?

I dont actually know. You are so odd.

[bozotheclown]

Did Ezio/vig miss a Mind Stone use on Day One? I don't see where it says that it starts on cooldown...

In the description of Vision, it says the Mind Stone starts the game on cooldown.

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@INVENTOR

Worcej the doc is likely to die. Give an item to ghug me or worcej tonight. Scum cant steal your items!!

[Jamiet99uk]

Wait WTF, ChippeRock was shot?

Well looks like I was wrong to suspect him. Sorry Chippe.

Please do not post when you have died, though.

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##Vote bo_sox48
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[flash2015]

Wait WTF, ChippeRock was shot?

Well looks like I was wrong to suspect him. Sorry Chippe.

Please do not post when you have died, though.

Yes, only Jamie and BB are allowed to do that!

[flash2015]

##Vote bo_sox48
##End

0 for 3?

[yavuzovic]

Snowy was under a significant amount of pressure throughout much of day 1, but his interaction with worcej screams town to me. On page 12, he “interrogates” him, paired with a pressure vote. Read it for yourself. The way snowy goes about this entire ordeal, managing not to actually call worcej scum but to leave it open ended for worcej to reveal himself whether he is scum or a PR, is very townie. If he were scum, he would already know whether worcej is scum or a PR. (Keep in mind that worcej has not claimed yet.) This would have been a great opportunity to note the slip, shut up, and look to either protect his teammate, bus his teammate, or have a damn good PR read for the night chat if worcej isn’t his teammate, which we are safely assuming right now he can’t be.

I find this an interesting quote, he apparently protected snowy. Also he made the defence of snowy for him. That message was written at night, which makes bo_ scummier in my eye.

Oh my god, are you that fucking stupid? I didn't push snowy; I voted for him to survive. Darg was behind by one and I couldn't affect that. Chippe had just put snowy within one vote of me with 30 seconds to go in the day. I tied the vote on purpose by voting for snowy. Had I known that darg would have actually had the lead if I had stayed put there, obviously I wouldn't have moved.

I won't make a comment here. I don't know much about voting to survive. Is that something scum-motivated? I think I would do it for either alignment. He is pretty angry for this, and this puts him to somewhere better.

By the way, flash, unend please.

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Wait WTF, ChippeRock was shot?

Well looks like I was wrong to suspect him. Sorry Chippe.

Please do not post when you have died, though.

Yes, only Jamie and BB are allowed to do that!

Ive never once dead posted in any game other than to say dilly dilly at an end of game please hold, and once in a maf qt I said dilly dilly.

I served a self imposed 1 game ban for it. I hardly think my actions are even close lol

[bozotheclown]

4 minutes before D1 EOD, a vote count was posted, showing darg leading 7-4-4. There were only 4 vote changes, making the vote 6-6-5, before bo_sox posted this:

No, I'm ahead.

Yall have info. Use it well. Peace.

I knew at the time that he was not ahead, and I suspect he knew it as well.

##VOTE bo_sox48

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##Vote bo_sox48
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0 for 3?

Third times a charm.

[flash2015]

@Yav, I haven't voted end. That is BB.

[yavuzovic]

Wait, ah. Sorry Flash, I thought it was you.
Brain, unend please.

[ghug]

4 minutes before D1 EOD, a vote count was posted, showing darg leading 7-4-4. There were only 4 vote changes, making the vote 6-6-5, before bo_sox posted this:

No, I'm ahead.

Yall have info. Use it well. Peace.

I knew at the time that he was not ahead, and I suspect he knew it as well.

##VOTE bo_sox48

And then he switched who he was tied with so that anyone trying to vote Darg to untie it would just tie it again!

[yavuzovic]

Bo's played very weird. I can't imagine a scenario that he is town. Maybe he is vig.

Anyway do not vote end because we can't kill him without letting him to speak.

[flash2015]

Bo's played very weird. I can't imagine a scenario that he is town. Maybe he is vig.

Anyway do not vote end because we can't kill him without letting him to speak.

He is an experienced player though, isn't he? I can't believe he would play vig that bad...

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Hellenic Riot
Day-1 04:56
page 48 Ah how I have missed these long catchups. Glad to see that massive D1 post inflation has continued unabated in the last six months.

My gratitude for your concern about my absence @ChippeRock, but as others mentioned, I pretty much never post in the early part of D1. The inane waffle of the first half of the day is something I only wish to suffer through once, when you can see what developed and what can be disregarded.

Standing out thus far:

- ChippeRock is very patent town and I have no idea how Ezio can possibly think he is a good vote - An explanation there would be greatly appreciated

- Reasonably strong townread on y2k. His scum response to being pressured is usually to run away and hide, and instead he came out and batted back at it, following up well.

- Disliked flash2015, particularly early on. He was very defensive earlier on, aggressively so, without making any solid counterpoints. Has seemed to calm down since he was accused of SK slipping (which was really dumb - there's no way that was an SK slip) which implies that's a more comfortable angle to defend himself from. Solid voting option.

- yavuzovic is playing rather differently from how I remember (though he might have evolved in the past 6 months that I've sat out). Far less tunnelling and seemingly avoiding antagonising any individuals for any prolonged periods of time. One to watch.

- Interested in the scumread on dargorygel (mostly from ghug). Initially I didn't see it, but the fact that he made some weak attempts to brush it away and has since retreated into hiding and not engaged with it at all makes it look like a far better path to go down.

- I didn't find Foxcastle's pursuit of worcej to be particularly unusual - all completely understable. What does bother me about Fox is that almost every *single* post he's made since worcej's claim has been defending his actions back then. Prior to the doc claim, Foxcastle was aggressively pushing and trying to uncover things. Since then he's done a complete 180 and isn't pushing anyone at all except for OMGUS'ing in self defence. I see you're now voting DT for "looking defensive" and using a strange voting format Fox... Is that the most you can come up with after these 48 pages? Do you have any reads whatsoever that aren't based around how people have perceived your worcej push? Has DT done anything aside from use [v] to arouse your suspicions? Do you have any townreads?

Hellenic Riot
Day-1 04:24
page 49 I've read everything up to here, brain.

My prior post contained my stronger reads. I can see some scum arguments on Squiggs. xorxes hasn't posted enough to get a read, ND has posted gigantic waves of bullshit so clearly nothing has changed there. Nothing either ghug or Jamie have done have screamed "scum" or "town" to me.

@rdrivera

I disagree. y2k even joked about the scum lurking when he was pressuring Bozo earlier. Sure, he's not been super active, but he has engaged and shown a tolerance for being pressured that I don't remember him ever showing as scum before. Yes, he could have decided to specifically play against his old meta, but if so then that should manifest itself over a prolonged period when it's harder to keep up. Right now I don't see y2k as scummy at all.

@Jamie

Do you have some reasons for pushing Foxcastle ASIDE from the worcej slip? I feel like everyone has latched onto that as a lazy excuse for targeting Fox when there is plenty other things to push there.

HR is unlikely to be scum. Based on this.
His points on darg. Flash. Yav, all feel pretty accurate

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Xorxes:

If I had to guess about Chippe right now I'd say town, I'll rearead him to see if I find anything that catches my eye though.

xorxes
Day-1 23:31
page 37 I have to agree with rdrivera, if Chippe is scum he deserves an Oscar.

And that's one of the comments that made me townread rdrivera as well.

These make xorx and rivera look towny and honest

[yavuzovic]

Xorxes:

If I had to guess about Chippe right now I'd say town, I'll rearead him to see if I find anything that catches my eye though.

xorxes
Day-1 23:31
page 37 I have to agree with rdrivera, if Chippe is scum he deserves an Oscar.

And that's one of the comments that made me townread rdrivera as well.

These make xorx and rivera look towny and honest

Why, only scums can know who's town and who's not. Are you clearing your scummates?!