M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

Maybe you could read the response I posted to DL on the previous page?

I did. I don't agree with most of it, and I'd like to know what damo does agree with.

Why do you think Snowy is town?

He's null

[Squigs44]

Hmm basing off what my notes are saying:

Snowy damo bozo squigs is my best guess for the maximum of four scum.

Reasoning behind it I have seen Squigs argue and interact with most people except not much with snowy.

Snowy kept defending damo/bozo.

Foods might have a point about bozo trying to ATE us on day 1 to live another day as scum.

Snowy because I feel like he's trying to buddy me like in m70.

Squigs is the least scumread one because I keep flipping between scum and null with them.

Literally voting Snowy and he's the person I've commented on most D2, but okay.

Day 1 and Night 1 you two barely interacted. Am I wrong on this? You were questioning and hunting others a lot more.

It could just be bussing.

But I also said I scum read you the least out of the four.

Yes, I interacted with him less in day 1/night 1. But your reads and that comment were from like 20 mins ago, so I assumed they would be current.

[Bonatogether]

What about D1 EOD makes you suspect DeathLlama?

edit: this became a whole thing

he voted me despite 'having trouble getting signal from high posters like snowy/ghug/bona in general' (his stated reason was 'it's weird that bona is gone actually'/'even when he was around yesterday he kinda just stopped progressing reads in the last few hours')

he also interacts a ton with snowy but has never put out a read on him throughout d1. In his VCA post n1, he hedges a townread ('snowy better', 'snowy has positive signal [but thing] which weakens this a little')

he also never mentions sqoogs, except tangentially.

also why make this post? it's so strange because it's 20 minutes after his previous post, which means that he's really just popping in and saying this, but why is this the thing you want to emphasize?

Do you think he's scum with those people?

With 1 of.

[Bonatogether]

answers to questions

edit: this became a whole thing

he voted me despite 'having trouble getting signal from high posters like snowy/ghug/bona in general' (his stated reason was 'it's weird that bona is gone actually'/'even when he was around yesterday he kinda just stopped progressing reads in the last few hours')

he also interacts a ton with snowy but has never put out a read on him throughout d1. In his VCA post n1, he hedges a townread ('snowy better', 'snowy has positive signal [but thing] which weakens this a little')

he also never mentions sqoogs, except tangentially.

also why make this post? it's so strange because it's 20 minutes after his previous post, which means that he's really just popping in and saying this, but why is this the thing you want to emphasize?

Basically at the point where I voted you, I had been unable to get people onto Damo and we were relatively close to EOD, so I figured I should choose between the main wagons. I figured snowy was just doing shit to get through N1 so I couldn't really read him, and I had a townread on squigs bc vibes, which led me to reread you and try to sift for signal.

what did you focus on in your reread? what signals did you pick up?

Why did you find it odd that Bonatogether was "gone" at that time?

He made like a billion posts in the first half of D1 and then kinda trailed off? I think I saw he was still +1ing people so it pinged me

Is your opinion of my posting frequency relative to my posting style/+1ing style (ie, those combined make me scummy, but not both in isolation), or are both scummy on their own merits? I wanna hear your thought process

[Bonatogether]

i have vdl in 30 minutes, will try to read a few posts while that's going

[ghug]

i have vdl in 30 minutes, will try to read a few posts while that's going

You play Diplomacy?

I just lost so much respect for you.

[Bonatogether]

i have vdl in 30 minutes, will try to read a few posts while that's going

You play Diplomacy?

I just lost so much respect for you.

[Jamiet99uk]

Hi Bona I see you there.

Tell me, how likely do you think it was that You vs Bo Sox vs Snowy at EoD1 was Town v Town v Town?

[DeathLlama8]

what did you focus on in your reread? what signals did you pick up?

Is your opinion of my posting frequency relative to my posting style/+1ing style (ie, those combined make me scummy, but not both in isolation), or are both scummy on their own merits? I wanna hear your thought process

My impression of your start of D1 was that you were posting very spontaneously and often, pushing whatever came to mind. However, towards the middle of D1, I think I noticed a shift in that you weren't pushing things as much and were more reactive (after the big push on squigs you sort of stagnated in terms of opinions offered before leaving). It wasn't super strong but enough to get me to vote you

I thought it was weird that you were so active (even when you weren't analyzing) and then just completely stopped posting for a while, but on second thought I don't think it's necessarily alignment indicative. If you were actually +1ing during that period it's kinda sus but I don't feel like verifying that

[DeathLlama8]

also why make this post? it's so strange because it's 20 minutes after his previous post, which means that he's really just popping in and saying this, but why is this the thing you want to emphasize?

I was bored in a meeting and popped in, noticed people were talking about it, and brought it up? Why do you think this is weird

[DeathLlama8]

##vote damo
- vibes are still off/forced to me, although this is getting better
- Not voting bo (to the point of getting a sabi wagon started instead) is weird, especially since he wasn't giving bona much attention before the vote
- focus on NK analysis while claiming VCA to be useless off of some tiebreaking votes is probably NAI, but if there were scum wagons at EOD then it could be deflection

[Jamiet99uk]

Hi Bona I see you there.

Tell me, how likely do you think it was that You vs Bo Sox vs Snowy at EoD1 was Town v Town v Town?

@Anyone who townreads Bona and is not voting Snowy - same question.

[DeathLlama8]

Hi Bona I see you there.

Tell me, how likely do you think it was that You vs Bo Sox vs Snowy at EoD1 was Town v Town v Town?

@Anyone who townreads Bona and is not voting Snowy - same question.

I think it's plausible. If this is the case it's probably worth looking at how those worcej/squigs wagons died

[DeathLlama8]

jamiet - since you think snowy was mafia, do you think he was actively protected yesterday / who would've most likely done that?

[DeathLlama8]

^ open question for the snowy wagon ig

[Bonatogether]

Hi Bona I see you there.

Tell me, how likely do you think it was that You vs Bo Sox vs Snowy at EoD1 was Town v Town v Town?

you're really just asking my opinion of snowy lol

i go back and forth on him, but i'm leaning scum just cause of the whole thing (idr the words) where he was acting scummy

[Squigs44]

jamiet - since you think snowy was mafia, do you think he was actively protected yesterday / who would've most likely done that?

Celaph/Bona/Snowy would be a spicy scumteam given the EoD1

More realistically I think if snowy is scum, maybe damo is scum also based on EoD, but really I don't think snowy really needed saving. Damo questioned Jamie's vote on snowy being the most sus if snowy is scum

[Jamiet99uk]

jamiet - since you think snowy was mafia, do you think he was actively protected yesterday / who would've most likely done that?

The most likely culprit would appear to be Worcegorygel

[damo666]

^ open question for the snowy wagon ig

You!

[Bonatogether]

what did you focus on in your reread? what signals did you pick up?

Is your opinion of my posting frequency relative to my posting style/+1ing style (ie, those combined make me scummy, but not both in isolation), or are both scummy on their own merits? I wanna hear your thought process

My impression of your start of D1 was that you were posting very spontaneously and often, pushing whatever came to mind. However, towards the middle of D1, I think I noticed a shift in that you weren't pushing things as much and were more reactive (after the big push on squigs you sort of stagnated in terms of opinions offered before leaving). It wasn't super strong but enough to get me to vote you

I thought it was weird that you were so active (even when you weren't analyzing) and then just completely stopped posting for a while, but on second thought I don't think it's necessarily alignment indicative. If you were actually +1ing during that period it's kinda sus but I don't feel like verifying that

my normal d1 flow is free posting -> argument over something (macca's entry being nai, killing high posters), and I feel like it fits that, but obviously self-meta should be taken with

can you verify it? is there a +1 log?