Mini Mafia 1018 - Race with the Devil [hidden]

[ghug]

this was on n3 before rdr said any of that



no explanation given
then came the townslip which you gave him townpoints for, you think
which is a very odd way of saying you think it's a real townslip and he is now your strongest townread

I think I had a vision of the scumteam that didn't include him in that moment. The townslip is the reason he's my strongest townread now, and I've called attention to it repeatedly.

the townslip is basically the only thing keeping this team from being particularly likely
everything else is not great at all

You said I'd never explained my shifting read. I did explain my shifting read. What else looks bad about the team beyond your inexplicable scumread on me?

[BobMcBob]

scumteam scanning
episode 3
ghug/maniac

ghug starts off with a strong townread on maniac which quickly flipped down to scum due to maniac not being crazy enough
then his read sat there for the whole game, never evolving past "maniac isnt crazy enough to be town"
he seemed like he was setting up to push maniac today but when the time came he inexplicably switched to a chaqa vote
maniac heavily defends ghug on d2 and pushes for a chaqa kill instead
then begins scumreading him more on n2 and remains scumreading him up until now
this behaviour doesnt scream scum to me but it also doesnt make me think theyre not scum together
this progression is entirely plausible from 2 scum but doesnt make it particularly more likely

[BobMcBob]

I think I had a vision of the scumteam that didn't include him in that moment. The townslip is the reason he's my strongest townread now, and I've called attention to it repeatedly.

the townslip is basically the only thing keeping this team from being particularly likely
everything else is not great at all

You said I'd never explained my shifting read. I did explain my shifting read. What else looks bad about the team beyond your inexplicable scumread on me?

i meant you never explained the shift before the townslip, which you didnt
the whole thing about you two constantly scumreading each other immediately stuck out as odd to me
partially it was gut reaction but im trying to separate these from directly "oh this person is scummy therefore this scumteam is more likely"

[ghug]

the townslip is basically the only thing keeping this team from being particularly likely
everything else is not great at all

You said I'd never explained my shifting read. I did explain my shifting read. What else looks bad about the team beyond your inexplicable scumread on me?

i meant you never explained the shift before the townslip, which you didnt
the whole thing about you two constantly scumreading each other immediately stuck out as odd to me
partially it was gut reaction but im trying to separate these from directly "oh this person is scummy therefore this scumteam is more likely"

I developed stronger scumreads. I posted that list I gave shortly after the post you quoted because he'd dropped all the way down to fourth because of those scumreads. He wasn't top town until the townslip. That's a perfectly natural progression.

[Maniac]

RIP Kak

I’m probably going to be doing a lot more reading than typing today.

As things stand I’m looking at discounting rdriveria altogether. If this is his scum game I don’t want to play with them again. It’s just too good.

I don’t understand chaqa saying stuff like ‘how can anyone think I’m scum’ were down to five players chaqa, you’re still in the mix. That said chaqa is looking more town to me yesterday and last night.

Take out Bob’s first day vote and he’s skated by being town side of null but he’s still here and has to be considered. I didn’t finish my reread of him and that’s my priority.

Ghug is looking the most likely. I think his forgetting about G/F is fake and I think he is only scum reading me now to keep the possibility of a miskill alive.

With regards pairs once I discount rdriveria I’m left with Bob/chaqa, Bob/Ghug and chaqa/Ghug. The last one seems the most unlikely and I’d almost discount it. Again sorry Vecna.

So I’m left with Bob/ghug >>>>>>Bob/chaqa. As Bob is the common denominator I’m good with ##vote Bob

[ghug]

Maniac, you believed a ghug/Chaqa team was possible before. What changed?

[Maniac]

Maniac, you believed a ghug/Chaqa team was possible before. What changed?

I think it’s still possible now. I think I’m inclined to think it’s less likely because my read on chaqa has changed.

If you want to convince me that it is you and chaqa, knock yourself out.

[Chaqa]

Storm knocked out the internet, joy.

[BobMcBob]

oh dear i didnt realise quite how impossible it would be to do the comparisons on mobile
was planning to take a look at maniac/chaqa (which is a theory that has been thrown around already) but ill have to do it tomorrow instead

[BobMcBob]

im really worried that the day is just gonna end in scum pushing me over the edge as a super easy kill
and theyll probably get away with it too at this rate

[Chaqa]

Maybe it is Rivera?

Idk. The Kak kill is weird, I feel like Rivera was really the most widely townread and should have been the kill.

[BobMcBob]

Maybe it is Rivera?

Idk. The Kak kill is weird, I feel like Rivera was really the most widely townread and should have been the kill.

i mean the slip is the main thing keeping him above bar
its a pretty damn good look, but if he faked it (which is plausible) hes just completely bamboozled us with one post

[Chaqa]

The problem is, there’s two mafia left, so two people are separately having really good scum games and being townread by at least few of us.

Hmmm

[Maniac]

The problem is, there’s two mafia left, so two people are separately having really good scum games and being townread by at least few of us.

Hmmm

I think the problem is that doc and cop got stopped so early without giving us any info. The chances of scum hitting both N1 was 1:72. We’re having to respond to that reality. Looking back the only bit of good luck we’ve had maybe three Bob fell asleep whilst voting or Ifischl. On the plus side there isn’t much more of this torture left. Two good educated guesses and we can still win this.

[Chaqa]

I want to vote out Rivera or Bob or Maniac.

Roughly in that order

[ghug]

Ultimately, scum usually does well when one of their own is caught on day one.

[rdrivera2005]

Maybe it is Rivera?

Idk. The Kak kill is weird, I feel like Rivera was really the most widely townread and should have been the kill.

I was expecting Maniac to be the NK, he was the most townread and had also the RB.

Explain why you think I would choose to kill Kak considering he was consistently townreading me and offering to sheep me (or Maniac)?

This looks like you tryng to fabricate something to justify a scum read on me.

[Chaqa]

Maybe it is Rivera?

Idk. The Kak kill is weird, I feel like Rivera was really the most widely townread and should have been the kill.

I was expecting Maniac to be the NK, he was the most townread and had also the RB.

Explain why you think I would choose to kill Kak considering he was consistently townreading me and offering to sheep me (or Maniac)?

This looks like you tryng to fabricate something to justify a scum read on me.

How is Maniac the most widely townread! Ghug outright scumreads him and I have had him mostly in my PoE.

[ghug]

Maybe it is Rivera?

Idk. The Kak kill is weird, I feel like Rivera was really the most widely townread and should have been the kill.

I was expecting Maniac to be the NK, he was the most townread and had also the RB.

Explain why you think I would choose to kill Kak considering he was consistently townreading me and offering to sheep me (or Maniac)?

This looks like you tryng to fabricate something to justify a scum read on me.

How is Maniac the most widely townread! Ghug outright scumreads him and I have had him mostly in my PoE.

rd doesn't respect my opinions.

[rdrivera2005]

Maybe it is Rivera?

Idk. The Kak kill is weird, I feel like Rivera was really the most widely townread and should have been the kill.

I was expecting Maniac to be the NK, he was the most townread and had also the RB.

Explain why you think I would choose to kill Kak considering he was consistently townreading me and offering to sheep me (or Maniac)?

This looks like you tryng to fabricate something to justify a scum read on me.

How is Maniac the most widely townread! Ghug outright scumreads him and I have had him mostly in my PoE.

Your POE puts him in 3rd of 4 people, not exactly a scumread. He was top townread of both me and Kak and Bob was also townreading him. And Ghug was scumreading him last night but isn't voting him.