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How do I react? I'm sorry to lose ghug. RIP ghug.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:10 pm@Balki - how do you react to Ghug flipping town, since you scumread him yesterday?
No, but I haven't been really looking. I'll reread and see if that changes my answerJamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:15 pm@RagingIke - In the game so far, did you notice anyone else softing or crumbing Doctor?
If you did, don't say their name - at this point a yay or nay is good enough...
+1Foxcastle wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:39 pmIke, why didn't you protect yourself N1 or N2? Whether you were the cop or the doctor, if the scumteam was trying to game out when you would have been protected, killing you one of those two nights would have made the most sense. So protecting yourself one of those two nights would also have made the most sense, particularly over the 0.5% chance of guessing the night kill correctly.
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I didnt feel like I needed to use it on myself, and I didnt know when I would full claim and didnt want to have self protected the night beforeBalki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:44 pm+1Foxcastle wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:39 pmIke, why didn't you protect yourself N1 or N2? Whether you were the cop or the doctor, if the scumteam was trying to game out when you would have been protected, killing you one of those two nights would have made the most sense. So protecting yourself one of those two nights would also have made the most sense, particularly over the 0.5% chance of guessing the night kill correctly.
But surely you must have thought about the risk you would be taking, if the scum believed your claim was credible?RagingIke297 wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:53 pmI didnt feel like I needed to use it on myself, and I didnt know when I would full claim and didnt want to have self protected the night beforeBalki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:44 pm+1Foxcastle wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:39 pmIke, why didn't you protect yourself N1 or N2? Whether you were the cop or the doctor, if the scumteam was trying to game out when you would have been protected, killing you one of those two nights would have made the most sense. So protecting yourself one of those two nights would also have made the most sense, particularly over the 0.5% chance of guessing the night kill correctly.
With the low number of people that actually believed my claim I didnt think scum would dare flip me and reveal the truth, they're playing long game and they're playing it wellJamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:54 pmBut surely you must have thought about the risk you would be taking, if the scum believed your claim was credible?RagingIke297 wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:53 pmI didnt feel like I needed to use it on myself, and I didnt know when I would full claim and didnt want to have self protected the night before
Your full claim didn't matter. You outed yourself as either the doctor or the cop, you were fully exposed to the scumteam for them to eliminate, and given their certain desire to remove the cop from game, that must have been tantalizing from them. And yet, you didn't feel the need. Why not? Like, take me through the reasoning that gets you to that decision.RagingIke297 wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:53 pmI didnt feel like I needed to use it on myself, and I didnt know when I would full claim and didnt want to have self protected the night beforeBalki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:44 pm+1Foxcastle wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:39 pmIke, why didn't you protect yourself N1 or N2? Whether you were the cop or the doctor, if the scumteam was trying to game out when you would have been protected, killing you one of those two nights would have made the most sense. So protecting yourself one of those two nights would also have made the most sense, particularly over the 0.5% chance of guessing the night kill correctly.
Wow! You must be pretty good at this game to know that the mafia are playing the long game on N1!RagingIke297 wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:58 pmWith the low number of people that actually believed my claim I didnt think scum would dare flip me and reveal the truth, they're playing long game and they're playing it wellJamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:54 pmBut surely you must have thought about the risk you would be taking, if the scum believed your claim was credible?RagingIke297 wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:53 pm
I didnt feel like I needed to use it on myself, and I didnt know when I would full claim and didnt want to have self protected the night before
Why do you say "the low number of people that actually believed your claim"?RagingIke297 wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:58 pmWith the low number of people that actually believed my claim I didnt think scum would dare flip me and reveal the truth, they're playing long game and they're playing it well
Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 11:02 pm@RagingIke,
I'd like you to flesh this out as much as possible.
It's Night 1. You just claimed PR, which moved people off of your wagon and onto another wagon. So, obviously there were people who at least reacted to your claim. If you are town, then you know that the mafia team knows you are town, and must believe that you are a PR.
You did not think that mafia would want to kill you? How can that be? Wouldn't you believe that the mafia team would suspect you of being a PR? Wouldn't you believe that the mafia team would have a very strong interest in killing PRs?
Please explain the highlighted statement? I do not understand what you mean.RagingIke297 wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 11:09 pmBalki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 11:02 pm@RagingIke,
I'd like you to flesh this out as much as possible.
It's Night 1. You just claimed PR, which moved people off of your wagon and onto another wagon. So, obviously there were people who at least reacted to your claim. If you are town, then you know that the mafia team knows you are town, and must believe that you are a PR.
You did not think that mafia would want to kill you? How can that be? Wouldn't you believe that the mafia team would suspect you of being a PR? Wouldn't you believe that the mafia team would have a very strong interest in killing PRs?
I'm on my phone so I'll flesh out my thinking more later. As I said, scum is playing long, they aren't going to kill me because they are going to let the town do it for them. It's a risky strategy, but it's paying off even better than they could have planned. Yes they know I'm a PR, but they know that they can paint me as scum by not killing me, and my being doctor is just another reason to keep me hanging out in the wind
If I'm the cop it's more of a problem, I can continue to scan and continue to look for scum. The only thing I can do is clear someone and prevent NK's. Point bring that I can find innos but I can't out any scum. IMO if I'm cop, scum would kill me tonight. Since I'm doctor they continue on their current courseJamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 11:15 pmPlease explain the highlighted statement? I do not understand what you mean.RagingIke297 wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 11:09 pmBalki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 11:02 pm@RagingIke,
I'd like you to flesh this out as much as possible.
It's Night 1. You just claimed PR, which moved people off of your wagon and onto another wagon. So, obviously there were people who at least reacted to your claim. If you are town, then you know that the mafia team knows you are town, and must believe that you are a PR.
You did not think that mafia would want to kill you? How can that be? Wouldn't you believe that the mafia team would suspect you of being a PR? Wouldn't you believe that the mafia team would have a very strong interest in killing PRs?
I'm on my phone so I'll flesh out my thinking more later. As I said, scum is playing long, they aren't going to kill me because they are going to let the town do it for them. It's a risky strategy, but it's paying off even better than they could have planned. Yes they know I'm a PR, but they know that they can paint me as scum by not killing me, and my being doctor is just another reason to keep me hanging out in the wind