Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

[bozotheclown]

@rdrivera: I think the explanation is that Ezio is bussing bo_sox.

[bozotheclown]

@rdrivera: Also, I do not think the mafia anticipated bo_sox getting the DD tag the way he did, if they had, they would have RBed Durga.

[thamrick]

@Ezio - why did you never address xorxes' vote on you D1?

[bo_sox48]

@dargorygel: Ezio is arguing to lynch bo_sox this turn and says he does not believe bo_sox's RB claim, while rdrivera is arguing to lynch Ezio and seems to believe bo_sox's RB claim. Finding out if bo_sox is scum provides information on how to interpret their positions.

How so?

At least one of Ezio or rdrivera is scum, so whoever is scum knows your alignment. If the remaining town also finds out your alignment, it can help us interpret how Ezio and rdrivera approached today.

Have you put in any effort in interpreting how Ezio and rdrivera approached xorxes yesterday? Show us what you've found.

[bo_sox48]

@rdrivera: Also, I do not think the mafia anticipated bo_sox getting the DD tag the way he did, if they had, they would have RBed Durga.

Sounds here like you're pretty well convinced that I'm town.

[bo_sox48]

@rdrivera: Also, I do not think the mafia anticipated bo_sox getting the DD tag the way he did, if they had, they would have RBed Durga.

@rdrivera: I think the explanation is that Ezio is bussing bo_sox.

These posts definitely read like a contradiction to me, and you posted these thoughts within two minutes of one another.

[bo_sox48]

If you were under the impression that I'm the roleblocker and got the tag that way, then you assume that I'm lying about being roleblocked. Yet no living player has claimed it. Therefore, it is safe to say that I roleblocked Durga, but that would clearly contradict the fact that I managed to stumble unto that nametag, which Durga didn't have. The only explanation that would fit that theory is that I am blatantly lying about my nametag, but if I was BO_SOX48, I obviously never peeked. Yall would have known. If I were blatantly lying about the nametag, don't you think I would have actually put forward a good lie with a whole day of nothing else to do and three days prior of basically nothing else to do?

Who got RBed on N1 and N2, bozo?

[bozotheclown]

How so?

At least one of Ezio or rdrivera is scum, so whoever is scum knows your alignment. If the remaining town also finds out your alignment, it can help us interpret how Ezio and rdrivera approached today.

Have you put in any effort in interpreting how Ezio and rdrivera approached xorxes yesterday? Show us what you've found.

I already commented on this N4.

[bozotheclown]

@rdrivera: Also, I do not think the mafia anticipated bo_sox getting the DD tag the way he did, if they had, they would have RBed Durga.

Sounds here like you're pretty well convinced that I'm town.

Why?

[bozotheclown]

@rdrivera: Also, I do not think the mafia anticipated bo_sox getting the DD tag the way he did, if they had, they would have RBed Durga.

@rdrivera: I think the explanation is that Ezio is bussing bo_sox.

These posts definitely read like a contradiction to me, and you posted these thoughts within two minutes of one another.

You apparently are misinterpreting one of these posts.

[bo_sox48]

A page number or quote from that post would be nice.

How would RBing Durga change the nametag discussion at all?

[bozotheclown]

A page number or quote from that post would be nice.

How would RBing Durga change the nametag discussion at all?

I made a few posts on this subject on page 80.

When I was talking about using the RB on Durga, I was responding to something rdrivera said. rdrivera said he did not think the mafia would kidnap a scum and risk the kidnapped scum getting the DD tag. What I was saying is that if the mafia wanted to kidnap a scum and they were concerned about getting the DD tag in the way that you did, they could have RBed Durga so the DD tag would be on Foxcastle when he was NKed.

[bozotheclown]

If you were under the impression that I'm the roleblocker and got the tag that way, then you assume that I'm lying about being roleblocked. Yet no living player has claimed it. Therefore, it is safe to say that I roleblocked Durga, but that would clearly contradict the fact that I managed to stumble unto that nametag, which Durga didn't have. The only explanation that would fit that theory is that I am blatantly lying about my nametag, but if I was BO_SOX48, I obviously never peeked. Yall would have known. If I were blatantly lying about the nametag, don't you think I would have actually put forward a good lie with a whole day of nothing else to do and three days prior of basically nothing else to do?

Who got RBed on N1 and N2, bozo?

You are correct, I think your nametag claim was fake and you were BO_SOX N3. If I am correct, you probably just made a mistake. If I am wrong, I would have the opportunity to reevalute if we lynch you and you flip town.

As far as I know, no one has been RBed yet this game.

[bo_sox48]

As far as I know, no one has been RBed yet this game.

That's a remarkably stupid assumption.

A page number or quote from that post would be nice.

How would RBing Durga change the nametag discussion at all?

I made a few posts on this subject on page 80.

When I was talking about using the RB on Durga, I was responding to something rdrivera said. rdrivera said he did not think the mafia would kidnap a scum and risk the kidnapped scum getting the DD tag. What I was saying is that if the mafia wanted to kidnap a scum and they were concerned about getting the DD tag in the way that you did, they could have RBed Durga so the DD tag would be on Foxcastle when he was NKed.

So it would therefore make a lot of sense that they kidnapped a town player.

If they didn't know Durga was the oracle, which you surmised, and were killing her, why not RB her? The only logical reason would be that they did not think she was the oracle. If they wanted to stop nametags from transferring, then RBing who they think is the likely last PR makes a lot of sense. Kidnapping that player and leaving one of their own to claim the role as a likely clear in MYLO also makes a fair bit of sense, but they flubbed that one by actually killing the oracle.

I have no confidence in your ability to come to grips with that most basic logic given that you would rather believe the mafia have just wasted their RB this entire game. Please, as you say, reevaluate, and stop being a lazy piece of trash by refusing to do so until you needlessly lynch me.

[bozotheclown]

@bo_sox: Since your vote does not count, why not give us your assessment of the game and volunteer to be lynched so we know your input is from town?

[bozotheclown]

@bo_sox: Who do you think is scum, Ezio, rdrivera, or both?

[bo_sox48]

Ezio, clearly. Rdrivera is trying his best to make it hard, though.

I'm planning on being alive to give an assessment of the game after he flips.

[DemonRHK]

##CALL GM - two of my questions haven't been answered. While I was kidnapped, could I have spoken in a mafia QT? Does the player with a vote that doesn't count have the ability to endhammer or does that not count either?

##GM NOTE:

A player that is kidnapped is completely removed from the game in all aspects.

Endhammering is unaffected by vote powers.

[bo_sox48]

Thanks. ##UNEND then, and ##VOTE no lynch

[bozotheclown]

I believe I have found a problem with waiting until D6 to vote no lynch to see if bo_sox performs the NK or waiting until D6 to lynch bo_sox. If bo_sox is scum, he can claim he was RBed N6, which if true, would mean he was no longer a free lynch. Since we would not know if he is scum with a fake RB claim or town that was really RBed, we would not be able to lynch him safely if he turned out to be town. Since I have enough questions about bo_sox to suspect him, I think he should be the lynch today, when we will not lose if he flips town.

##VOTE bo_sox48