Re: Mini Mafia 1018 - Race with the Devil [hidden]
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:47 am
I'm 100% vanilla town guaranteed (TM)
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Yeah, this is where I've been for about two days
huh funny, thats like exactly what i said earlier too and you completely ignored it
When did you say that?BobMcBob wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:09 amhuh funny, thats like exactly what i said earlier too and you completely ignored it
BobMcBob wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:00 amlike i said, everybody else has good bits, you dont reallyghug wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:38 amEveryone else thinks Jamie was scum now, and I don't, so I don't think you can really use my reaction there as a point against me. Jamie had a similarly pathetic outburst as scum last game against town kgray, so automatically townreading him for being emotional is silly.
I can see why a lazy, shallow analysis of D1 says my vote was bad, but that shouldn't be the analysis you're using, and even if you are, there are other people whose votes were bad.
that said, im not even sure individual scumminess is a good metric to vote by tomorrow
given that basically everyone is towny i dont feel confident just basing my reads off scumminess, especially at lilo
it seems like a great way for scum to take control of voting super easily and just get a miskill, especially by just pushing whichever of chaqa/ghug is not on the team (or either if neither of them are)
so i really wanna try to look more seriously at interactions and see what we can gain from that
Oh, that you townread everyone? I'm not impressed by that. You've got one read and it's wrong.BobMcBob wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:50 amhereBobMcBob wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:00 amlike i said, everybody else has good bits, you dont reallyghug wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:38 am
Everyone else thinks Jamie was scum now, and I don't, so I don't think you can really use my reaction there as a point against me. Jamie had a similarly pathetic outburst as scum last game against town kgray, so automatically townreading him for being emotional is silly.
I can see why a lazy, shallow analysis of D1 says my vote was bad, but that shouldn't be the analysis you're using, and even if you are, there are other people whose votes were bad.
that said, im not even sure individual scumminess is a good metric to vote by tomorrow
given that basically everyone is towny i dont feel confident just basing my reads off scumminess, especially at lilo
it seems like a great way for scum to take control of voting super easily and just get a miskill, especially by just pushing whichever of chaqa/ghug is not on the team (or either if neither of them are)
so i really wanna try to look more seriously at interactions and see what we can gain from that
fun fact, chaqa has no readsghug wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:18 amOh, that you townread everyone? I'm not impressed by that. You've got one read and it's wrong.BobMcBob wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:50 amhereBobMcBob wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:00 am
like i said, everybody else has good bits, you dont really
that said, im not even sure individual scumminess is a good metric to vote by tomorrow
given that basically everyone is towny i dont feel confident just basing my reads off scumminess, especially at lilo
it seems like a great way for scum to take control of voting super easily and just get a miskill, especially by just pushing whichever of chaqa/ghug is not on the team (or either if neither of them are)
so i really wanna try to look more seriously at interactions and see what we can gain from that
So you’ve decided not to kill me tonight then and push my kill tomorrow. Thanks for the heads upghug wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:17 amBut more generally, if Chaqa and I both end up being town, I don't want any of y'all feeling absolved of guilt because the scum "played well". You've all created a situation where there's no hunting and very little AI voting because everyone's stuck in the same tunnel. The easiest way to win as scum is to stoke that shit and keep it going as long as possible (which is why we should kill Maniac tomorrow, not that I'll ever convince any of you of that).
This is bullshit. You two are both alive, so there isn't such a big tunnel. Also, you two pushed the no-kill that was one of the main reasons the game dropped activity.ghug wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:17 amBut more generally, if Chaqa and I both end up being town, I don't want any of y'all feeling absolved of guilt because the scum "played well". You've all created a situation where there's no hunting and very little AI voting because everyone's stuck in the same tunnel. The easiest way to win as scum is to stoke that shit and keep it going as long as possible (which is why we should kill Maniac tomorrow, not that I'll ever convince any of you of that).
I was agreeing with the part about looking at pairs. Why would I take kindly to "everyone appears townie except ghug"?
The only reason we're still alive is that Maniac briefly decided to forsake the one reads he's had all game in the final moments of the day. Tell me that doesn't look like trying to keep the easy miskills around.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:06 amThis is bullshit. You two are both alive, so there isn't such a big tunnel. Also, you two pushed the no-kill that was one of the main reasons the game dropped activity.ghug wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:17 amBut more generally, if Chaqa and I both end up being town, I don't want any of y'all feeling absolved of guilt because the scum "played well". You've all created a situation where there's no hunting and very little AI voting because everyone's stuck in the same tunnel. The easiest way to win as scum is to stoke that shit and keep it going as long as possible (which is why we should kill Maniac tomorrow, not that I'll ever convince any of you of that).
Yeah you’ve got me good Ghug. I bussed D1 following the game where I was bussed heavily D1 and received zero credit.ghug wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:52 pmThe only reason we're still alive is that Maniac briefly decided to forsake the one reads he's had all game in the final moments of the day. Tell me that doesn't look like trying to keep the easy miskills around.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:06 amThis is bullshit. You two are both alive, so there isn't such a big tunnel. Also, you two pushed the no-kill that was one of the main reasons the game dropped activity.ghug wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:17 amBut more generally, if Chaqa and I both end up being town, I don't want any of y'all feeling absolved of guilt because the scum "played well". You've all created a situation where there's no hunting and very little AI voting because everyone's stuck in the same tunnel. The easiest way to win as scum is to stoke that shit and keep it going as long as possible (which is why we should kill Maniac tomorrow, not that I'll ever convince any of you of that).
Do you really think you are an easy miskill? I don´t think so, in fact I don´t remember when was the last time you were miskilled (maybe I just have bad memory, don´t have time to dig the bot now)ghug wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:52 pmThe only reason we're still alive is that Maniac briefly decided to forsake the one reads he's had all game in the final moments of the day. Tell me that doesn't look like trying to keep the easy miskills around.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:06 amThis is bullshit. You two are both alive, so there isn't such a big tunnel. Also, you two pushed the no-kill that was one of the main reasons the game dropped activity.ghug wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:17 amBut more generally, if Chaqa and I both end up being town, I don't want any of y'all feeling absolved of guilt because the scum "played well". You've all created a situation where there's no hunting and very little AI voting because everyone's stuck in the same tunnel. The easiest way to win as scum is to stoke that shit and keep it going as long as possible (which is why we should kill Maniac tomorrow, not that I'll ever convince any of you of that).
In fact, the only way I can see Maniac as scum is if he is scum with you Ghug. Then it could make sense.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:46 pmDo you really think you are an easy miskill? I don´t think so, in fact I don´t remember when was the last time you were miskilled (maybe I just have bad memory, don´t have time to dig the bot now)ghug wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:52 pmThe only reason we're still alive is that Maniac briefly decided to forsake the one reads he's had all game in the final moments of the day. Tell me that doesn't look like trying to keep the easy miskills around.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:06 am
This is bullshit. You two are both alive, so there isn't such a big tunnel. Also, you two pushed the no-kill that was one of the main reasons the game dropped activity.
Anyway, if I were scum and the options are town you and town Bona I would get you killed 10 out of 10 times (no offense Bona).
I think I am in this game.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:46 pmDo you really think you are an easy miskill? I don´t think so, in fact I don´t remember when was the last time you were miskilled (maybe I just have bad memory, don´t have time to dig the bot now)ghug wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:52 pmThe only reason we're still alive is that Maniac briefly decided to forsake the one reads he's had all game in the final moments of the day. Tell me that doesn't look like trying to keep the easy miskills around.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:06 am
This is bullshit. You two are both alive, so there isn't such a big tunnel. Also, you two pushed the no-kill that was one of the main reasons the game dropped activity.
Anyway, if I were scum and the options are town you and town Bona I would get you killed 10 out of 10 times (no offense Bona).
You don't think a Maniac/Chaqa team makes sense?rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:48 pmIn fact, the only way I can see Maniac as scum is if he is scum with you Ghug. Then it could make sense.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:46 pmDo you really think you are an easy miskill? I don´t think so, in fact I don´t remember when was the last time you were miskilled (maybe I just have bad memory, don´t have time to dig the bot now)
Anyway, if I were scum and the options are town you and town Bona I would get you killed 10 out of 10 times (no offense Bona).