M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[BesharamSabi]

sabi is far more arrogant tonight than during day 1. the ability to converse in scumchat inevitably changes tone and cockiness

Yep you caught me brainbomb. I spent all this time making a spreadsheet to help town as a member of mafia.

Almost like my confidence came from accomplishing a project I wanted to do for a while now.

But nah it's because I am just making fun of how much of a simp eden is for spreadsheets in scum chat.

[brainbomb]

1398 posts day 1 and 1/4 of those were posts by sabi saying the following things

outting their role pm
wanting a policy kill on jamie
wanting to sub out due to being a 3 wagon
saying the game would be better with them dead
accusing anyone voting them of unfairly tunneling
relentless victimhood
using examples from among us to articulate their reasoning
summing up various reads on people using parroting
when called out for parroting they invented their own vibe system
threatening to ignore people who might be tunneling them
betting money theyll flip vt when theres a miller among the vts

to suddenly n1 theyre making spreadsheets and acting like none of this happened

[brainbomb]

I cannot see you as behaving this way as town. This is the zone where scum reside who wish to spam the game to create chaos and make it hard to sift through to the actual content of the game itself

[BesharamSabi]

Things brainbomb has done:

Tunnel sabi
Talk about his baby
Tunnel sabi
Make outlandish theory that the gm took part in scum theater
Tunnel sabi
Somehow thinks damo and ghug is scum
Tunnel sabi
Make baseless attacks on Sabi


Youre doing so much in this game bb. I'm proud of you

[BesharamSabi]

I cannot see you as behaving this way as town. This is the zone where scum reside who wish to spam the game to create chaos and make it hard to sift through to the actual content of the game itself

Yet people who know me outside of the game know how arrogant and cocky I get when I accomplish projects but go off brainbomb since you clearly know me lol

[BesharamSabi]

I love spending a lot of time on this project and then told I faked it and still scum :^)

Anyway it's midnight so I need to sleep. Talk to yall in d2

[brainbomb]

well since 18% of this game has been devoured by you I think its probably only fitting that youd be offended at being pushed for the actual reasons you are scum.

[BesharamSabi]

Here you go brainbomb, my noteworthy analysis during the night when I reread and had data

http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... 25#p291125

http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... 19#p291119

http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... 17#p291117

http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... 05#p291105

http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... 01#p291101

Now can you actually scum hunt.

[BesharamSabi]

Making a note he left out only Bona and blamp

And what do you think that means? I want to see more conclusions from you. That was what was helping me see you more as town.

I can only do one thing at a time lol.

Nothing right now can be glean from that except Maniac never once mentuoned/reference/replied/quoted both Bona and blamp. Bona also never mentioned/replied/quoted/referenced Maniac but he mentioned blamp in 10 posts. Blamp on the other hand mentioned Maniac 5 times and Bona in 2 posts.

What exactly can I conclude from this, idk yet. I need more info and what not.

Also this too brainbomb. Tell me who I parroted this from?

[BesharamSabi]

My scum lean on Maniac is a bit stronger after rereading and compiling the data.

I could be off base.

His interaction with celaph (and lack of it from his side) seems unnatural and awkward.

[President Eden]

unclear how much time I will have to commit to the game for the rest of the night phase. so have an absurdly early EoN post.

• brainbomb, Bona, ghug, Sabi all town. do not kill. and if you are among those four please do your best to work through any interpersonal disputes, because you’re all going to be needed if we’re going to win, and I may not be around to slap some sense into y’all.
• Boat is close to making this list, don’t let him coast. Chaqa and snowy seem ok, but neither of them have escaped their mafia range IMO. still lean town but monitor them more closely. Demon is also probably town.
• kill celaph. after that kill Maniac if celaph flips mafia as I anticipate. hopefully by then bozo will have proven himself. if not kill him too.
• want to put Lamp in town pile but can’t rationalize it yet. damo too but less so. though I may randomly remember some reason why.
• rest are nulls, which is more notable in the case of Jamie, but the rest are lowposters.

and in honor of detective ray, if I die kill ghug

goodnight

[pyxxy]

Imagine that. We hit the flipper first day.

[Well, there's a chance]

Oh actually I meant to ask this in my town!bona post, are there any situations where Kak is/was actually scum? I've read all the role explanations and searched their powers on the internet but it's still my first game so I'm getting a little confused between "flipper" and "flipped town" etc etc

• kill celaph. after that kill Maniac if celaph flips mafia as I anticipate. hopefully by then bozo will have proven himself. if not kill him too.

yay I finally understand what flip means

please, no one rush to answer my other question about kak's role

I love spending a lot of time on this project and then told I faked it and still scum :^)

Anyway it's midnight so I need to sleep. Talk to yall in d2

In all fairness, if one merely had to sink a few hours into a (legitimately!) clever spreadsheet in order to get instant town cred that will last at least a few days, I would expect more people to do so.

But perhaps I don't have the context for just how innovative this spreadsheet is so like this isn't meant to be a critique or anything.

unclear how much time I will have to commit to the game for the rest of the night phase. so have an absurdly early EoN post.

• brainbomb, Bona, ghug, Sabi all town. do not kill. and if you are among those four please do your best to work through any interpersonal disputes, because you’re all going to be needed if we’re going to win, and I may not be around to slap some sense into y’all.
• Boat is close to making this list, don’t let him coast. Chaqa and snowy seem ok, but neither of them have escaped their mafia range IMO. still lean town but monitor them more closely. Demon is also probably town.
• kill celaph. after that kill Maniac if celaph flips mafia as I anticipate. hopefully by then bozo will have proven himself. if not kill him too.
• want to put Lamp in town pile but can’t rationalize it yet. damo too but less so. though I may randomly remember some reason why.
• rest are nulls, which is more notable in the case of Jamie, but the rest are lowposters.

and in honor of detective ray, if I die kill ghug

goodnight

Goodnight!

Put another way, you're sus on:
- celaph
- maniac
- bozo (with noted caveat)

which puts you one sus short of the four mafia in the game

and you're null on:
- Jamie
- worcej (who said no time to post until Day "3", just in case anyone missed that)
- pyxxy (myself)
- rdrivera2005

Out of the nulls, who do you currently think is the most likely to be the (theoretically) fourth and final mafia?

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okay I wrote that sentence and was about to publish but now I feel like it makes it sound like I'm trying to inception everyone into thinking those three are probably mafia, that's not my intention, this is purely a question for Eden

[damo666]

Sabi Bona Eden Pyyxxyy all town. Brain probtown.

Celaph foregone conclusion for 2m.

[ghug]

ghug is scum
so rework your scumteam to have ghug on it

wat

[ghug]

Ghug is the towniest town that ever towned in this game.

wouldn’t go that far. but I think he is town sure.

i dont think hes said a single word to me

You've been entertaining but pretty null alignment-wise

Did you notice I hadn't talked to you before the spreadsheet?

[ghug]

ghug ignores me and avoids me when he is scum. this has been true in every occasion

Has it?

[ghug]

it kinda feels like you guys are trivializing this matter and playing revisionist dmg control on ghugs behalf

huh? I think we both agreed with your assessment. at least I did.

also I’ve decided to remove the +1 embargo on Sabi, both the idea to track interactions and the spreadsheet is legitimately awesome.

Scum are gonna game the fuck out of it now though.

[ghug]

unclear how much time I will have to commit to the game for the rest of the night phase. so have an absurdly early EoN post.

• brainbomb, Bona, ghug, Sabi all town. do not kill. and if you are among those four please do your best to work through any interpersonal disputes, because you’re all going to be needed if we’re going to win, and I may not be around to slap some sense into y’all.
• Boat is close to making this list, don’t let him coast. Chaqa and snowy seem ok, but neither of them have escaped their mafia range IMO. still lean town but monitor them more closely. Demon is also probably town.
• kill celaph. after that kill Maniac if celaph flips mafia as I anticipate. hopefully by then bozo will have proven himself. if not kill him too.
• want to put Lamp in town pile but can’t rationalize it yet. damo too but less so. though I may randomly remember some reason why.
• rest are nulls, which is more notable in the case of Jamie, but the rest are lowposters.

and in honor of detective ray, if I die kill ghug

goodnight

That's in honor of me damnit

[Jamiet99uk]

Hi. I have 15 minutes between work meetings so I am going to specifically look for questions aimed at me, and try to answer any.

[Jamiet99uk]

How do you feel about this eof Jamiet? You voted Kak last, so you must've had a thought about it

I had tended to agree with Maniac's take on Celaph, so when it became clear nobody was going to flip Chaqa with me I had to quickly decide where to go, and I was inclined to suspect Kak more than Celaph at that time. Moreover, Kak was dangerous scum in the last game and defeated me by pulling the wool over my eyes very effectively, so I was also worried about that.

As to other people's motivations, TFB looked honest enough to be as EoD approached and his move onto the Chaqa wagon with me and Blamp would be a ballsy move if he's scum, so I didn't like the TFB wagon.

Is it possible Celaph was saved? Sure it is.
Do we frequently have TvT wagons at EoD 1? Sure we do.

I need to re-read EoD in forensic detail but I won't have time to do that for several hours.