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Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:07 pm
by worcej
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:04 pm
The role cop PM says that players may be investigated after the fourth night. Someone looking at the PM quickly could easily think it says the power is active starting N4. However, I would expect a town member assigned this role to read it more carefully. Therefore, I suspect Percy's claim is fake, and I do not think we should wait until D6 to lynch him.
:!:

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:07 pm
by Vaporwave
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:01 pm

Lol, I thought you might be trying to pocket me with your earlier town read of me.

Pocketception.
My first townread of you was quite strong, I started to waver once others became more prominent and you faded a bit in the background

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:08 pm
by Vecna
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:54 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:39 pm
Hello?!?!?

What did Damo claim? I did not see Damo hardclaiming. What page, what role?
See below.
Notice how Damo hardclaimed MAMMAL

This is not actually a role. Yet notice how Xorxes keeps suggesting we cannot lynch the slot for a while, since its a confirmable role.

Either I missed something in what his true claim was, or this reveals quite a lot about team compositions.

@xorxes what were you under the impression damos claim was that was verifyable?

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:09 pm
by Vecna
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:58 pm
Right, so there are mammals that are VT. So Damo hasn't actually made a specific claim, and it's not possible for anyone to meaningfully counter claim.

Why is Xorxes behaving as if Damo has made a serious claim that means he shouldn't be a suspect?

This is very stinky.
ding dong

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:10 pm
by Vaporwave
forgot bomb's animal :( I need it for...research purposes

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:11 pm
by Vaporwave
Vaporwave wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:10 pm
forgot bomb's animal :( I need it for...research purposes
basically I wanna put a face to bomb since he's considered townclear

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:11 pm
by Vecna
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:01 pm
Vecna never properly justified his hard scumread on me, even when I addressed him directly in defending myself.

He just knows it's easy to throw shade onto me. I'm an easy target for lazy Vecnas.
Except im not lazy and youve just been scummy as fuck in your early game.

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:12 pm
by bozotheclown
Vecna wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:08 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:54 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:39 pm
Hello?!?!?

What did Damo claim? I did not see Damo hardclaiming. What page, what role?
See below.
Notice how Damo hardclaimed MAMMAL

This is not actually a role. Yet notice how Xorxes keeps suggesting we cannot lynch the slot for a while, since its a confirmable role.

Either I missed something in what his true claim was, or this reveals quite a lot about team compositions.

@xorxes what were you under the impression damos claim was that was verifyable?
If you put damo's 2 claims together, there are a limited number of roles that qualify.

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:12 pm
by EspressoPatronum
brainbomb wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:00 pm
Lets just be real.
having 5 scumreads is probably less focused than having 1
but having 5 scumreads guarantees more discussion
2-3 is usually better imo. It's somewhat focused but still guarantees discussion. 5 by N1 is too many to produce meaningful discussion for most ppl bcz the thread becomes too unfocused.

I say "most ppl" because you've been able to make cases on several people. Feel free to keep your reads wide!

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:13 pm
by bozotheclown
worcej wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:07 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:04 pm
The role cop PM says that players may be investigated after the fourth night. Someone looking at the PM quickly could easily think it says the power is active starting N4. However, I would expect a town member assigned this role to read it more carefully. Therefore, I suspect Percy's claim is fake, and I do not think we should wait until D6 to lynch him.
:!:
What does that mean?

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:14 pm
by Vaporwave
Also I can fully relax in Percy's presence, I will actually defend him openly because I believe he's town

I'm more concerned with Hosuke and his partner, but that's a topic for another day.

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:15 pm
by Vecna
worcej wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:10 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:17 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:48 pm
@Worcej: The role cop only becomes active on Night 4 onwards. That's why Percy's claim is particularly unfortunate.
the exact reason why town would be a lot more carefull when and how to claim it. This last.minute move always smells of scum and just further fits.
+7

Percy's claim was so stupid based on how the situation was shaking out. But you have to also remember, he has done dumb stuff claiming his role out loud when unneeded in the past.
I was in a hood with him when he did that, and the information was akready outted to scum then.

The comparison is completely unfair

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:15 pm
by bozotheclown
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:12 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:00 pm
Lets just be real.
having 5 scumreads is probably less focused than having 1
but having 5 scumreads guarantees more discussion
2-3 is usually better imo. It's somewhat focused but still guarantees discussion. 5 by N1 is too many to produce meaningful discussion for most ppl bcz the thread becomes too unfocused.

I say "most ppl" because you've been able to make cases on several people. Feel free to keep your reads wide!
I think it would be interesting if everyone game their best guess of exactly five. Scum would have to choose some combination of bussing and scum reading town. We could then run some statistical analysis.

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:18 pm
by Foxcastle
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:15 pm
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:12 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:00 pm
Lets just be real.
having 5 scumreads is probably less focused than having 1
but having 5 scumreads guarantees more discussion
2-3 is usually better imo. It's somewhat focused but still guarantees discussion. 5 by N1 is too many to produce meaningful discussion for most ppl bcz the thread becomes too unfocused.

I say "most ppl" because you've been able to make cases on several people. Feel free to keep your reads wide!
I think it would be interesting if everyone game their best guess of exactly five. Scum would have to choose some combination of bussing and scum reading town. We could then run some statistical analysis.
I COULD BUILD A SPREADSHEET!

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:18 pm
by EspressoPatronum
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:15 pm
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:12 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:00 pm
Lets just be real.
having 5 scumreads is probably less focused than having 1
but having 5 scumreads guarantees more discussion
2-3 is usually better imo. It's somewhat focused but still guarantees discussion. 5 by N1 is too many to produce meaningful discussion for most ppl bcz the thread becomes too unfocused.

I say "most ppl" because you've been able to make cases on several people. Feel free to keep your reads wide!
I think it would be interesting if everyone game their best guess of exactly five. Scum would have to choose some combination of bussing and scum reading town. We could then run some statistical analysis.
How about top 5 in descending order?

We'd still get the top 2-3 but have the others just in case.

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:19 pm
by worcej
Vecna wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:15 pm
worcej wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:10 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:17 am


the exact reason why town would be a lot more carefull when and how to claim it. This last.minute move always smells of scum and just further fits.
+7

Percy's claim was so stupid based on how the situation was shaking out. But you have to also remember, he has done dumb stuff claiming his role out loud when unneeded in the past.
I was in a hood with him when he did that, and the information was akready outted to scum then.

The comparison is completely unfair
It was only outted to scum because you were scum :P

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:19 pm
by EspressoPatronum
Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:18 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:15 pm
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:12 pm


2-3 is usually better imo. It's somewhat focused but still guarantees discussion. 5 by N1 is too many to produce meaningful discussion for most ppl bcz the thread becomes too unfocused.

I say "most ppl" because you've been able to make cases on several people. Feel free to keep your reads wide!
I think it would be interesting if everyone game their best guess of exactly five. Scum would have to choose some combination of bussing and scum reading town. We could then run some statistical analysis.
I COULD BUILD A SPREADSHEET!
Yes! I only got to see the spreadsheet from the sidelines last time.

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:20 pm
by worcej
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:13 pm
worcej wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:07 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:04 pm
The role cop PM says that players may be investigated after the fourth night. Someone looking at the PM quickly could easily think it says the power is active starting N4. However, I would expect a town member assigned this role to read it more carefully. Therefore, I suspect Percy's claim is fake, and I do not think we should wait until D6 to lynch him.
:!:
What does that mean?
You clearly have never played Metal Gear Solid...

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:20 pm
by bozotheclown
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:18 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:15 pm
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:12 pm


2-3 is usually better imo. It's somewhat focused but still guarantees discussion. 5 by N1 is too many to produce meaningful discussion for most ppl bcz the thread becomes too unfocused.

I say "most ppl" because you've been able to make cases on several people. Feel free to keep your reads wide!
I think it would be interesting if everyone game their best guess of exactly five. Scum would have to choose some combination of bussing and scum reading town. We could then run some statistical analysis.
How about top 5 in descending order?

We'd still get the top 2-3 but have the others just in case.
That is even better, 1-5 with 1 being most likely scum.

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:21 pm
by bozotheclown
worcej wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:20 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:13 pm
worcej wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:07 pm
:!:
What does that mean?
You clearly have never played Metal Gear Solid...
That is true.