Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:56 pm
Regarding my EoD1 Absence - I was busy being taught a new Steam game by a friend and it took longer than I anticipated, so instead of being able to turn up with 10 minutes to go I tabbed in right as the day ended, and therefore decided to tab back out. I could have been around if I wanted, though.
EoN Reads List:
Bozotheclown - Can't really understand why he's so deadset tunnelling on Flash, and it seems more like he's trying to square the rest of the game to make Flash scum than it is that he's actually trying to find scum. Not that I can talk when it comes to accusing people of tunnelling, but the obsession here really doesn't make any sense to me. A key driver of the flash wagon D1. Possible scum, possible 3P.
BunnyGo - Has been extremely active this game and yet I can't think of a single memorable thing he's actually done. Null/Possible scum
Fluminator - Has really done nothing. Vote flipping near EoD looked pretty bad, but one would anticipate that a scum trying to save their teammate would instead make one stronger case and try to gain traction on it, instead of just hipspraying at everyone. Null.
damo666 - Got the same vibes off him as last game, and I see no reason why he'd jump in front of everything by openly trying to PR-fish as scum. Plus he was the guy who put MF into the lead. Extremely Strong town.
Durga - Can definitely see her as scum here. Somewhat defended MF, and the fact that Moscow got locked into the kill so easily suggests that at least some of the scumteam weren't around to drive a counterwagon.
Flash2015 - Probable town. As I've said already tonight, I just don't see how his self-vote play makes any sense if he's on a team with Moscow. Mafia don't give up and just let town kill between them, they either bus for credit or they push for a town-wagon.
Foodcoats - Haven't really seen anything to change my mind about them being scum D1, and I think it somewhat noteworthy that when Moscow & Food became the tied top 2 wagons D1, the flash wagon very quickly materialised as alternative option.
goldfinger - Liked his explanations, liked his lines of questioning, pretty strong townread.
hthefourth - No real feelings, though he was one of the people who jumped onto the flash wagon when it first appeared after Moscow & Food had been tied. Null.
kgray - The yavu wagon being an attempt to save Moscow is definitely possible, but the wagon she was previously on (food) was still viable at that time, and as I think food is scum, I struggle to imagine that kgray double-bussed there. Leaning town.
Macca - Not had great explanations, but I'm still willing to give the benefit of the doubt for now while there are other people who look worse. Slight scum
rdrivera - I don't think I've ever townread rdrivera in a single game I've played with him, but the early and consistent vote on Moscow looks very good, and I struggle to believe that he'd consider Moscow so weak that he had to be eliminated no matter what. Probable town.
Seth - If Food is scum, I struggle to believe Seth would double-bus in his first scum game, much as the same as with kgray. However, if food is town, then seth's vote pattern looks a lot more damning and I think he gets a lot less credit for the Moscow kill than other people do. Slight town.
Summit - Ain't anything like last game, and reminds me of the game where he died N1 as town recently too. Maybe he's completely flipped his meta, but I don't buy it. Strong townread.
Tom Bombadil - I found his early interactions with Moscow to be discomfiting right from the off, and that was entirely on Tom's end. Absolutely nothing he's done has rubbed me off as being townie. His consistent focus on Damo after it became clear to almost everyone that Damo was probably town felt borderline desperate to me, and the flash vote at the end is just the cherry on the top. Extremely strong scumread. Kill immediately.
TrPrado - Not really a fan of just quoting stuff which happened 12 hours ago and going "And what?" as a way of looking like you're actually adding content to the game, and I could buy that he was a scum who was absent at EoD. Slight scum.
Vecna - Key driver behind the Moscow wagon despite having plenty of opportunities to abandon ship onto other wagons. Strong townread.
worcej - So-so day, but as scum would he really bother parking his vote onto the damo wagon when Moscow/Food/flash were tied for the lead? Pretty much took himself out of the window to rescue his partner or influence the daykill, so I'm leaning town on him as a result.
yavuzovic - The "tie" vote was pretty damn weird, but staying on the Bozo wagon for so long as scum would be a pretty big abdication of responsibility for scum there. Null
EoN Reads List:
Bozotheclown - Can't really understand why he's so deadset tunnelling on Flash, and it seems more like he's trying to square the rest of the game to make Flash scum than it is that he's actually trying to find scum. Not that I can talk when it comes to accusing people of tunnelling, but the obsession here really doesn't make any sense to me. A key driver of the flash wagon D1. Possible scum, possible 3P.
BunnyGo - Has been extremely active this game and yet I can't think of a single memorable thing he's actually done. Null/Possible scum
Fluminator - Has really done nothing. Vote flipping near EoD looked pretty bad, but one would anticipate that a scum trying to save their teammate would instead make one stronger case and try to gain traction on it, instead of just hipspraying at everyone. Null.
damo666 - Got the same vibes off him as last game, and I see no reason why he'd jump in front of everything by openly trying to PR-fish as scum. Plus he was the guy who put MF into the lead. Extremely Strong town.
Durga - Can definitely see her as scum here. Somewhat defended MF, and the fact that Moscow got locked into the kill so easily suggests that at least some of the scumteam weren't around to drive a counterwagon.
Flash2015 - Probable town. As I've said already tonight, I just don't see how his self-vote play makes any sense if he's on a team with Moscow. Mafia don't give up and just let town kill between them, they either bus for credit or they push for a town-wagon.
Foodcoats - Haven't really seen anything to change my mind about them being scum D1, and I think it somewhat noteworthy that when Moscow & Food became the tied top 2 wagons D1, the flash wagon very quickly materialised as alternative option.
goldfinger - Liked his explanations, liked his lines of questioning, pretty strong townread.
hthefourth - No real feelings, though he was one of the people who jumped onto the flash wagon when it first appeared after Moscow & Food had been tied. Null.
kgray - The yavu wagon being an attempt to save Moscow is definitely possible, but the wagon she was previously on (food) was still viable at that time, and as I think food is scum, I struggle to imagine that kgray double-bussed there. Leaning town.
Macca - Not had great explanations, but I'm still willing to give the benefit of the doubt for now while there are other people who look worse. Slight scum
rdrivera - I don't think I've ever townread rdrivera in a single game I've played with him, but the early and consistent vote on Moscow looks very good, and I struggle to believe that he'd consider Moscow so weak that he had to be eliminated no matter what. Probable town.
Seth - If Food is scum, I struggle to believe Seth would double-bus in his first scum game, much as the same as with kgray. However, if food is town, then seth's vote pattern looks a lot more damning and I think he gets a lot less credit for the Moscow kill than other people do. Slight town.
Summit - Ain't anything like last game, and reminds me of the game where he died N1 as town recently too. Maybe he's completely flipped his meta, but I don't buy it. Strong townread.
Tom Bombadil - I found his early interactions with Moscow to be discomfiting right from the off, and that was entirely on Tom's end. Absolutely nothing he's done has rubbed me off as being townie. His consistent focus on Damo after it became clear to almost everyone that Damo was probably town felt borderline desperate to me, and the flash vote at the end is just the cherry on the top. Extremely strong scumread. Kill immediately.
TrPrado - Not really a fan of just quoting stuff which happened 12 hours ago and going "And what?" as a way of looking like you're actually adding content to the game, and I could buy that he was a scum who was absent at EoD. Slight scum.
Vecna - Key driver behind the Moscow wagon despite having plenty of opportunities to abandon ship onto other wagons. Strong townread.
worcej - So-so day, but as scum would he really bother parking his vote onto the damo wagon when Moscow/Food/flash were tied for the lead? Pretty much took himself out of the window to rescue his partner or influence the daykill, so I'm leaning town on him as a result.
yavuzovic - The "tie" vote was pretty damn weird, but staying on the Bozo wagon for so long as scum would be a pretty big abdication of responsibility for scum there. Null