M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

with the sniper out of play? idk there was discussion about it at some point but it didn't go anywhere

I claim Nurse. Or Savior or whatever is it called here. Basically when I die I give a selected person an extra life. It's a good role if I find a town read and it's a super horrible role if I missclear someone. Well, that is if I happen to get NKed or eliminated.

I think that others should claim as well because from what I saw in the setup, with sniper out of the way, idk why we wouldn't claim.

i have already claimed mouse and so has yavuz. we are backing each other up on this

napoleoff claimed sniper and dw backs this up with his watchman claim (which itself is not backed up)

chomps claimed gravedigger with will as coven mouse (me and yavuz can back up the mouse part)

you are now claiming savior

nobody has cced; these are all the claims so far

objection
my soft which I revealed backs up my claim

[miminena]

I claim Nurse. Or Savior or whatever is it called here. Basically when I die I give a selected person an extra life. It's a good role if I find a town read and it's a super horrible role if I missclear someone. Well, that is if I happen to get NKed or eliminated.

I think that others should claim as well because from what I saw in the setup, with sniper out of the way, idk why we wouldn't claim.

i have already claimed mouse and so has yavuz. we are backing each other up on this

napoleoff claimed sniper and dw backs this up with his watchman claim (which itself is not backed up)

chomps claimed gravedigger with will as coven mouse (me and yavuz can back up the mouse part)

you are now claiming savior

nobody has cced; these are all the claims so far

objection
my soft which I revealed backs up my claim

true but for all i know you might have softed every role in that post so you could pick what to claim

not saying you did but you could have done so

[Jamiet99uk]

...That's not concerning as much as the fact that we have a sniper who, if shoots and misses, or is scum then we automatically lose...

The sniper has already fired, and missed.

[Jamiet99uk]

Can someone tell me why we aren't massclaiming yet?

Why do you want a massclaim?

[Jamiet99uk]

also with damo being dead we should be careful about massclaiming

if we do that and a scum is the last person to claim they have the ability to claim the remaining role that isn't theirs

WAIT HE IS DEAD? I WAS CRAFTING BUNNY x DAMO PAIRING!

You should always consult the bot to make sure you are aware of who has died.

[Jamiet99uk]

also with damo being dead we should be careful about massclaiming

if we do that and a scum is the last person to claim they have the ability to claim the remaining role that isn't theirs

Maybe we should claim only if we're the top wagon.

I object to any massclaim today.

[Krr1ss]

Yeah but my hash plan is more certain

We can agree to disagree

I mean, didn't we both claim already? That's for other town

True

[BunnyGo]

copycat >:(

(or fox?)

People associate me as a fox a lot actually because of pfps. I even have an alt named Foxy

We used to have Kitsune here. She was great.

[Krr1ss]

Can someone tell me why we aren't massclaiming yet?

Why do you want a massclaim?

Cuz I want information ofc. Mafia in fundimetally a war of information and scum currently 100% have better flow of information than us PR wise. Maybe even perfect solve. Since the only limit and disadvantage to claiming (sniper) is off the table I see no reason not to do it

[Krr1ss]

also with damo being dead we should be careful about massclaiming

if we do that and a scum is the last person to claim they have the ability to claim the remaining role that isn't theirs

Maybe we should claim only if we're the top wagon.

I object to any massclaim today.

Why

[BunnyGo]

also with damo being dead we should be careful about massclaiming

if we do that and a scum is the last person to claim they have the ability to claim the remaining role that isn't theirs

Maybe we should claim only if we're the top wagon.

What if we all share hashes of our roles with small additions (to prevent early reveals) then once everyone writes their hashes, we reveal the hash contents.

I’m so over the hashing.

[Krr1ss]

I can't backread anymore for now so fwiw I'll just paste the last post I had wrote

[Krr1ss]

Bunny and mimi town

only reads so far

Why?

I did some analysis between games and it turns out announcing that you're "back" is statistically scummy
##vote jamie

Show your working.

my "working" is a reaction test, and you appear to be calm and rational
so, not town jamie
the vote stays

wtf is this xD

my "working" is a reaction test, and you appear to be calm and rational
so, not town jamie
the vote stays

so tired of this
gfy

is "this" reaction testing, or the expectation that town jamie is calmer than scum jamie?

I absolutely don't understand what this means.

I'm currently having problems determining who the spiritualist is. Any thoughts?

Why would you care unless this is a soft?

I'm on board about mimi, but now that Bunny has backed off his "I'm a lying liar who lies" opening, he's squarely null for me again. Would you share your thoughts on Bunny?

Tell me about mimi…what about her posts seem towny to you?

She thought my interaction with Will was weird, and it was, but not because we're a pairing, but there's no way for her to know that. She questioned about the statement that players in this particular build will need to be willing to lie. She seems to be coming from a place of--I guess the term would be "open awareness" like she's paying very fine tuned attention to the thread but letting the thread talk to her instead of her putting her voice into the thread. It feels like she's looking for people to trust and mistrust.

I so wanna sheep butter and just be done with it but I gotta do my work or Moth will beat me up.

why?

we're not friends bug-nar

I’m wondering if he could convince me to see something and vote you.

We ain’t buddies. We agree on that.

But I’m slightly to the town side of null for you at the moment.

But damo is coming in stronger town for now.

This post is scummy af no joke.

To summarize and paraphrase, it's "I can vote for them if need be. Oh, btw, we aren't paired, glad you noticed that's important. Ohhh, you are towny btw keep your work you are doing good. But he is town don't touch him."
Like, it's got:
1. Hedging
2. Emphathasing pairings with oneself (which usually only scum cares about)
3. Pocketing immediately after (not strong pocketing tbf but it felt so unecessary to add that here unless it's for garnering good impression
4. Shielding that other slot that was hedged on in point 1.

It feels like the whole purpose of this post is to unpair themselves + shield another slot in a roundabout way.

Tentative pairing for Bunny and Damo

Tell me about mimi…what about her posts seem towny to you?

this is literally what i've been asking

Badly.

Use words better.

Specificity is the soul of narrative.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

Stop trying to be witty.

What is the purpose of this post? I am confused.

[Jamiet99uk]

Can someone tell me why we aren't massclaiming yet?

Why do you want a massclaim?

Cuz I want information ofc. Mafia in fundimetally a war of information and scum currently 100% have better flow of information than us PR wise. Maybe even perfect solve. Since the only limit and disadvantage to claiming (sniper) is off the table I see no reason not to do it

You are wrong that that is the only disadvantage.

There are likely to be townies with powers they have not used yet. Revealing them gives Mafia the opportunity to NK them without their powers being used.

[BunnyGo]

also with damo being dead we should be careful about massclaiming

if we do that and a scum is the last person to claim they have the ability to claim the remaining role that isn't theirs

Maybe we should claim only if we're the top wagon.

I object to any massclaim today.

Why?

[BunnyGo]

Can someone tell me why we aren't massclaiming yet?

Why do you want a massclaim?

Cuz I want information ofc. Mafia in fundimetally a war of information and scum currently 100% have better flow of information than us PR wise. Maybe even perfect solve. Since the only limit and disadvantage to claiming (sniper) is off the table I see no reason not to do it

They probably don’t know damo’s role

[Jamiet99uk]

Maybe we should claim only if we're the top wagon.

I object to any massclaim today.

Why?

For the reason I just gave in response to Krriss.

[Krr1ss]

Why do you want a massclaim?

Cuz I want information ofc. Mafia in fundimetally a war of information and scum currently 100% have better flow of information than us PR wise. Maybe even perfect solve. Since the only limit and disadvantage to claiming (sniper) is off the table I see no reason not to do it

You are wrong that that is the only disadvantage.

There are likely to be townies with powers they have not used yet. Revealing them gives Mafia the opportunity to NK them without their powers being used.

Spiritualist, Judge, and Appreientice are the only ones I know of.

Out of those, the only one really worth getting out of your way to eliminate as scum is Spiritualist tbh and even then it's not worth too much so idk what you mean. If I was scum here I'd always kill people to further my agenda not go for weak roles or roles that may actively end up being pro-town if killed like mine

[BunnyGo]

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What is the purpose of this post? I am confused.

Easier to read Bofa when he’s slightly agitated. He’s always obnoxious, but when agitated he shows his hand more.

And the other post was pure unadulterated Bunny (TM)

[Krr1ss]

Why do you want a massclaim?

Cuz I want information ofc. Mafia in fundimetally a war of information and scum currently 100% have better flow of information than us PR wise. Maybe even perfect solve. Since the only limit and disadvantage to claiming (sniper) is off the table I see no reason not to do it

They probably don’t know damo’s role

Well idk tbh, I just said that we are at disadvantage without claims