MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[kgray]

I get that I lost the argument. shouldnt have turned me into a 3 wagon

I still don't fully understand why you think it's beneficial to vote out someone who isn't here, but that wasn't the main part of me scumreading you anyway. I felt like you were deliberately mischaracterizing my play. You've always been pretty complimentary of it and then all of a sudden I comment that your endvote seemed forced to me, and you go off about how I'm shutting down conversation and won't listen to you, which didn't happen.

[Hamilton Brian]

Brain has probably already done this but it helps me if I put it in print for myself (visual/kinesthetic)

Order of Demon votes:
Food>Demon (from worce; go back and check the rationale)
Vecna>Demon (from darg)
kgray>Demon (from darg) (by this point it's 3/3/3/2 for Dem/Bon/Dar/HB(me)
Celaph>Demon (this makes it 4/3/3/2)(Deciding vote?)
Chaqa>Demon (from kgray)
kgray>Brain from Demon (4/3/2/2 of Dem/Kak/HB/Maniac) (narrows the vote)
Bona>Demon from Dar (5/4/3/3 of Dem/Kak/HB/Brain) (ups the vote to almost foregone conclusion without a massive vote movement)
kgray>Demon from Brain (6/4/4/2 of Dem/Kak/HB/Brain)
Maniac>Demon from HB (7/4/3/2)

Food looks good; I think scum would have moved off partner earlier on.
Celaph looks good, as does Bona.

Dem>Bona vote also looks good for Bona.

I guess another sequence of looking at evidence is looking at who was voting away and around from Demon.

[kgray]

Oh yeah, food and kgray are the main RHK pushers. Sure.

Food voted RHK in response to my sus:


Vecna, why are you just straight up being a revisionist historian?

Sure, but it took you 2 hours to join the Demon wagon after food started it... It's not like you were really pushing it.

I was, I don’t need to be voting for someone to push something. You guys get too worried about the road and not the result. I pushed a lot of people: Macca, Demon, you (kgray), Food, Maniac. Just because I’m not voting for someone doesn’t mean I’m not pushing them

I mean, casting shade on a bunch of people isn't the same as pushing a wagon.

[brainbomb]

I get that I lost the argument. shouldnt have turned me into a 3 wagon

I still don't fully understand why you think it's beneficial to vote out someone who isn't here, but that wasn't the main part of me scumreading you anyway. I felt like you were deliberately mischaracterizing my play. You've always been pretty complimentary of it and then all of a sudden I comment that your endvote seemed forced to me, and you go off about how I'm shutting down conversation and won't listen to you, which didn't happen.

you shut down the bona dialogue
you shut down my reasoning on foodcoats being town

you shut down my reasons for thinking it was weird vec and foodcoats called kak wacky and fun when he never was

you shut down my end hammer on bona

you shut down my move to kakarrotto late and white knighted him as very strong town

[damo666]

Im glad dargo was just faking being cop. we wouldve been really screwed if that was real

he could be faking the fake (for fake's sake)

[brainbomb]

I said that I felt kak was scum and a strong late push on him would force multiple scum to scramble to protect him

[brainbomb]

I was quite unaware that by pushing kakarrotto I was potentially saving demonrhk. that much should be evident since I was against the RHK wagon by that point

[Vecna]

pretty sure i did

You did not.

My bad. I missed it. You didn’t address the part I was concerned about though - namely that food and kgray were key pushers, when both were basing their reads off mine at least somewhat

Honestly, im over this discussion. It was all me. Glory to me.

[Hamilton Brian]

And it sounds like you're twonreading them based on stuff outside of Demon's movie thing too?

Pretty much. If Brain is scum and he's putting in that much time and effort, that's a hell of a job distancing.

[damo666]

Anyone ever done any research on Nightposting volumes and alignment?

Seems to me that brain has posted so much at night he would have had no time for scumchat.

Your town aren't you brain?

[Vecna]

Seems you have some sort of vendetta out for me in every game, is all, Vecna. Used to happen in Among Us too. Anything I do is suspicious or you ignore it.

You did some things I found pretty suspicious with the knowledge of the flip. Dont blow it up more than it is.

You brought some attention to stuff I overlooked as well. Just because I dont comment on it doesnt mean I dont take it aboard. I get you want aknowledgement of all that, fine. You were more involved in the RHK wagon than I initially gave you credit for.

[kgray]

I get that I lost the argument. shouldnt have turned me into a 3 wagon

I still don't fully understand why you think it's beneficial to vote out someone who isn't here, but that wasn't the main part of me scumreading you anyway. I felt like you were deliberately mischaracterizing my play. You've always been pretty complimentary of it and then all of a sudden I comment that your endvote seemed forced to me, and you go off about how I'm shutting down conversation and won't listen to you, which didn't happen.

you shut down the bona dialogue
you shut down my reasoning on foodcoats being town

you shut down my reasons for thinking it was weird vec and foodcoats called kak wacky and fun when he never was

you shut down my end hammer on bona

you shut down my move to kakarrotto late and white knighted him as very strong town

I absolutely did not shut down Bona dialogue, I only shut down the false narrative going around that Bona was defending Macca.

I had a different opinion on food and stated it, but nowhere did I shut down your townread of him. Having a different read isn't the same as shutting down other people.

I never even responded to you thinking Vecna and food called kak fun and wacky.

I called your endhammer forced.

I disliked your argument that kak should be killed because he wasn't here, and I townread him so I didn't want him killed. So yes, I fought against that.

None of that is shutting anything down.

[damo666]

If darg survives the night should we kill him?

[Vecna]

So a quick review of the setup says that there's always:
8 VT
1 Miller

And then all of the other roles on each side except, missing one of these pairs:
(1) Town Roleblocker / Janitor
(2) Inventor / Ninja
(3) Doctor / Goon
(4) Watcher / Driver
(5) Journalist / Godfather
(6) Cop / Stalker

So we can probably figure out the exact setup down the line, but we should wait until the Werewolf has been neutralized.

Heres to hoping its #4 lol. Removing the strongest scum PR for a watcher seems like a pretty good deal.

So can you talk about this thought process on driver being strongest scum role?

Seriously?

[brainbomb]

Anyone ever done any research on Nightposting volumes and alignment?

Seems to me that brain has posted so much at night he would have had no time for scumchat.

Your town aren't you brain?

very much so

[kgray]

And it sounds like you're twonreading them based on stuff outside of Demon's movie thing too?

Pretty much. If Brain is scum and he's putting in that much time and effort, that's a hell of a job distancing.

Yeah I mostly agree with brain's effort being towny, I think he's been similar to his ardent hunting style from the Mason game.

[ghug]

Ghug is vecna or kgray town? I think Brain ignored my question

I can't read Vecna, so I'm going to townread him for a few days and then decide to scumread him. He agreed with my gut read on Maniac, so that's cool.

kgray could definitely be scum.

Give me a reason.

Nah

[ghug]

Ghug, is Ghug scum?

*whisper* even when looking good, ghug might be eeevii~iil, eeeeviiiiii~iiil *whisper*

but if anyone is interested in my thoughts, I don't like how long ghug stayed on maniac and then goes to vote brain (D1 voting)

(also, if I were there at the end of D1, I probably would've voted for Hamilton and only go to Demon if I need to survive. The other wagons don't look that good, I might've voted instead bona but I feel I rather would've voted hamilton then. Just for reference and more information for you. You know, in case I die this night.)

Oh I'm extremely suspicious of ghug, yeah.

Give me a reason.

[kgray]

*whisper* even when looking good, ghug might be eeevii~iil, eeeeviiiiii~iiil *whisper*

but if anyone is interested in my thoughts, I don't like how long ghug stayed on maniac and then goes to vote brain (D1 voting)

(also, if I were there at the end of D1, I probably would've voted for Hamilton and only go to Demon if I need to survive. The other wagons don't look that good, I might've voted instead bona but I feel I rather would've voted hamilton then. Just for reference and more information for you. You know, in case I die this night.)

Oh I'm extremely suspicious of ghug, yeah.

Give me a reason.

Nah

[Vecna]

Anyone ever done any research on Nightposting volumes and alignment?

Seems to me that brain has posted so much at night he would have had no time for scumchat.

Your town aren't you brain?

lol, have you ever met brainbomb before?

Of all the reasons to townread him, this surely must be the absolute worst.