Re: MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:47 am
Omg it's Foxy Knoxy
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I pretty clearly acknowledged it with my actions and moved along to more productive enterprises:
I don’t get the sense that you would miss something like this as town if you were reading as carefully as you normally do.President Eden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:14 amThis vote increases my odds of voting for mafia from 0% to not-0%.
Well, for one, you want to get better, and I think I can help.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:32 amWell I guess I do appreciate you trying to help me be a better player. I dunno why you want to but it’s nice of you to help me out. What happens if I don’t get better and not meet your expectations of me? Sad emoji face here.
By indicating it was your belief that the two mafia teams know each other, one of two things can be true:BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:32 amIn regards to contributing, I really don’t know why I used that for mafia besides to say I doubt anyone would produce a genuine answer to those questions. Maybe I used the wrong word. What do you feel like you contributed and why do you think I missed it?
It’s been a long time. I’m not really a fan of them, because they make it very easy for mafia to appear to hunt, and they make it harder for mafia to make informed decisions. That tampers with the “uninformed majority vs informed minority” dynamic that’s so fun in mafia. But they’re fine changes of pace.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:32 amI see in regards to multi mafia teams. Have you played any games with multiple mafia before?
yo how do i come into thisPresident Eden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:47 am
I don’t get the sense that you would miss something like this as town if you were reading as carefully as you normally do.
Unfortunately this isn’t alignment-indicative for Bona.
2. "Fabricate," "manufacture"... These are really not things town should be doing, open or otherwise.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:47 am2. but it's really not cause it's open
manufacture an idea
2. i do it all the time and no one noticesFoxcastle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:49 am2. "Fabricate," "manufacture"... These are really not things town should be doing, open or otherwise.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:47 am2. but it's really not cause it's open
manufacture an idea
Let's look at the history of people teaching me in my three games so far:ghug wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:40 amMy instinct as scum last game was to act like I was going to teach Sabi how to play. ##VOTE EdenPresident Eden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:21 amI’m only asking to refine your process. We’ll get to a meaningful answer. We’re going to be working together for a while this game, and you want to keep learning and growing as a player. There will be a lot of questions and you will be even better by the end of itBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:14 amOMG eden stop with these endless questions about contribution. I beg you. I have no idea how to give you a meaningful answer lol.
You used the word “contribute.” In the context of mafia, what does that mean to you? (I happen to think I did contribute, but I don’t think it’s in the way you meant.)
It’s up in the air. They need to keep town divided, but they also need to eliminate each other. Multiple-mafia games play meaningfully differently from regular mafia games, but you can still apply a lot of the same town lessons from previous games.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:14 amSo I guess the two mafia teams don’t know each other and rather kill town they kill each other. Somehow a town person is stuck in the crossfire. What is this, West side story? Well I’m glad scum teams are more focused on each other than killing town.
2. That is just setting me up to say something mean.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:50 am2. i do it all the time and no one noticesFoxcastle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:49 am2. "Fabricate," "manufacture"... These are really not things town should be doing, open or otherwise.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:47 am
2. but it's really not cause it's open
manufacture an idea
pro life tip: be like bona
I mean he's going into so much detail responding to you and he misses the thing that could be a townslip? It's objectively sus. Maybe he just doesn't want to be the one to point it out, maybe he thinks mentioning it will reveal too much info about what he knows about the setup. He's a self-admitted post editor so it could be anything.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:38 amHI Grey,
What did you think about his glossing over that and why did you not like it? I missed it myself to be honest.
Honestly I do agree it feels awkward but that's every conversation I have with eden regardless of it being in the game or not.
HI durga,
You've read the game up to this point and determined it will be a long shitpost phase? I was surprised at how fast it got serious for some peopleFoxcastle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:38 am1. I fully support the prohibition on +1s.
2. Eden and Sabi are... something. I definitely haven't played with Sabi and I'm pretty sure I haven't played with Eden, but their reputations certainly do precede them.
3. This is going to be a long shitpost phase.
2. bona is too cool to careFoxcastle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:51 am2. That is just setting me up to say something mean.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:50 am2. i do it all the time and no one notices
pro life tip: be like bona
ohPresident Eden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:51 am
Fox are you the one who believes there's no such thing as 'too scummy to be scum'?Foxcastle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:46 am2. Seems scummy to push that kind of behavior.
Oh, I'm interpreting all of that as part of the shitpost phase.kgray wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:54 amYou've read the game up to this point and determined it will be a long shitpost phase? I was surprised at how fast it got serious for some peopleFoxcastle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:38 am1. I fully support the prohibition on +1s.
2. Eden and Sabi are... something. I definitely haven't played with Sabi and I'm pretty sure I haven't played with Eden, but their reputations certainly do precede them.
3. This is going to be a long shitpost phase.
No. I firmly believe that town should make a list of who they find scummy, and then ignore all of those people and focus on scum hunting among people who don't look scummy.
Firstly, I made a smaller effort to do that in M70, while town. snowy also made a pass at it in M1020 while town.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:51 amLet’s look at the history of people teaching me in my three games so far:
Snowy did it m70 while scum.
Bunny did it 1019 while scum.
Ghug and Deathllama both did it in 1020 while scum.
Is there a reason why scum target me to buddy by telling me they want to help me be a better player? Why is this a pattern? What is it about me that makes scum buddy me this way?
“Objectively sus”kgray wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:53 amI mean he’s going into so much detail responding to you and he misses the thing that could be a townslip? It’s objectively sus. Maybe he just doesn’t want to be the one to point it out, maybe he thinks mentioning it will reveal too much info about what he knows about the setup. He’s a self-admitted post editor so it could be anything.
And it’s not just awkward, it’s serious. Not what I’d expect from you too