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Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:50 pm
by bozotheclown
worcej wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:38 pm
Getting caught up - have thoughts:
  1. Can confirm that a cult leader was on Jaime, this isn't new, but the way I am thinking of this is who is the clever player that would know to stay on the same wagon as Jaime? By doing that, they stay hidden. This isn't super obvious, so it's someone with some good insight in these games.
  2. My leading theory is the Mason attempted to recruit last night, not kill. The only value in a mason claiming, WHICH I AM NOT A PROPONENT OF, is that it would narrow down our pool of people in the yavu votes. But the pool is narrow enough anyways, so I'm just going to use my insight.
  3. Anyone focused on not the obvious leader hidden amongst the votes yavu is a fool and I am highly scum reading you from here on out. Bozo and Squigs, I am looking at you two.
  4. BB's mistake on the end hammer does seem off, but also BB is generally just off... I am not sure I read into this much myself.
So going back to point 1, I narrow it down to DrCJG and BB as my two candidates for death today. Of the two, honestly DrCJG is the one that stands out of the two to me - I know he's smart and able to get mechanics down.

##vote DrCJG - lord help me that I am agreeing with Damo...
I do not disagree with this, but I feel more confident now DemonRHK is the N1 recruiter than DrCJG as the N1 curser.

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:54 pm
by damo666
DemonRHK wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:15 pm
Wow. Neither desired result came to pass last night. The Mason missed AND I'm still town.

Mason doesn't have much choice, they have to reveal. If they're cursed, they're dead anyway.

I'm going to assume worst case, which is cult hit both recruits and did it is the most intelligent way, meaning There is a solo leader and a leader with two followers.

I wholeheartedly believe the second leader was not on the Yavu lynch. I also know it's not me. The leaves Squigs and Bozo, becuase I'm also operating under the assumption Worc was the N1 bless.

Bozo flipped off of Yavu, and assuming (currently) Mason aimed for Doc, he's clear, so that means that there is a leader between Damo, Brain, and Neph. My money is on brain currently.

Bozo-Brain

We need the most dead to restore majority, and hopefully force them to have to recruit so the mason can finish the job if they aren't cursed.

##Vote Bozo
Demon I trust you but in this post you advocate Mason revealing and suggest an uncursed Mason can finish off the job if your Bozo recruit theory correct. You can't have both because if the mason reveals himself he will be lynched! So, MASON PLEASE STAY HIDDEN.

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:59 pm
by damo666
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:35 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:57 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:43 am
DemonRHK is the most likely recruiter N1.

##VOTE DemonRHK
Why?

From VT pov curser1 is 1 of 3. Recruiter 1 is 1 of 6.
From Main pov it is 1/3 & 1/5 respectively.

So we are still scrabbling in the dark.

Scum less so as their Mason search is 1/4.
There are still 4 in the curser pool, including you.
Correct from pov of a VT outside curser pool it's 1 in 4, from a pov of a VT INSIDE curser pool it's 1 in 3.

Townslip!!!!

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:01 pm
by damo666
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:38 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:05 am
I think that if it's 5-4 there's a good chance curser 1 was used as recruiter 2 to avoid the risk of a recruiter 1 NK taking out 3 scum. We should therefore lynch from the curser pool.

##Vote DrCJG

Squigs and Bozo and brain please switch.
Yes, each cult may have recruited once, but we know the N1 recruiter has at least one follower. Also, you could be the N1 curser or a converted cult.
We only know N1 recruiter has a follower if it is 5-4. Recruit could have failed and it's 6-3.

Scumslip Bozo?

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:04 pm
by damo666
worcej wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:38 pm
Getting caught up - have thoughts:
  1. Can confirm that a cult leader was on Jaime, this isn't new, but the way I am thinking of this is who is the clever player that would know to stay on the same wagon as Jaime? By doing that, they stay hidden. This isn't super obvious, so it's someone with some good insight in these games.
  2. My leading theory is the Mason attempted to recruit last night, not kill. The only value in a mason claiming, WHICH I AM NOT A PROPONENT OF, is that it would narrow down our pool of people in the yavu votes. But the pool is narrow enough anyways, so I'm just going to use my insight.
  3. Anyone focused on not the obvious leader hidden amongst the votes yavu is a fool and I am highly scum reading you from here on out. Bozo and Squigs, I am looking at you two.
  4. BB's mistake on the end hammer does seem off, but also BB is generally just off... I am not sure I read into this much myself.
So going back to point 1, I narrow it down to DrCJG and BB as my two candidates for death today. Of the two, honestly DrCJG is the one that stands out of the two to me - I know he's smart and able to get mechanics down.

##vote DrCJG - lord help me that I am agreeing with Damo...
Yay

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:07 pm
by Squigs44
damo666 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:49 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:09 pm
Brain you're being an idiot and we both know it. You're probably cult follower trying to bait a vote on yourself to protect your recruiter.

Damo - CJG was likely the Mason bless late night just based on the urges of players. Since he didn't die, I think lynching him is not optimal. This is one upside to mason claiming, since they would be able to give us a clear. Since mason hasn't claimed, I think we all need to consolidate on RHK as cult recruiter option.
Would you consider voting Bozo or Neph?
Bozo isn't cult. I've made this argument multiple times, and Bozo just posted it himself. He can't be N1 curser. He wouldn't have been N1 recruiter after being second wagon. He also wouldn't have been recruited N1. It's possible he was recruited N2 but unlikely, and we should go for a cult leader.

Neph is possible. I think RHK is better, and is more likely N1 recruiter. But Neph is a strong possibility for N1 curser.

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:11 pm
by bozotheclown
damo666 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:01 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:38 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:05 am
I think that if it's 5-4 there's a good chance curser 1 was used as recruiter 2 to avoid the risk of a recruiter 1 NK taking out 3 scum. We should therefore lynch from the curser pool.

##Vote DrCJG

Squigs and Bozo and brain please switch.
Yes, each cult may have recruited once, but we know the N1 recruiter has at least one follower. Also, you could be the N1 curser or a converted cult.
We only know N1 recruiter has a follower if it is 5-4. Recruit could have failed and it's 6-3.

Scumslip Bozo?
My response was based on your premise "if it's 5-4", but you are correct, neither cult is guaranteed to have any followers.

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:12 pm
by Squigs44
damo666 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:54 pm
DemonRHK wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:15 pm
Wow. Neither desired result came to pass last night. The Mason missed AND I'm still town.

Mason doesn't have much choice, they have to reveal. If they're cursed, they're dead anyway.

I'm going to assume worst case, which is cult hit both recruits and did it is the most intelligent way, meaning There is a solo leader and a leader with two followers.

I wholeheartedly believe the second leader was not on the Yavu lynch. I also know it's not me. The leaves Squigs and Bozo, becuase I'm also operating under the assumption Worc was the N1 bless.

Bozo flipped off of Yavu, and assuming (currently) Mason aimed for Doc, he's clear, so that means that there is a leader between Damo, Brain, and Neph. My money is on brain currently.

Bozo-Brain

We need the most dead to restore majority, and hopefully force them to have to recruit so the mason can finish the job if they aren't cursed.

##Vote Bozo
Demon I trust you but in this post you advocate Mason revealing and suggest an uncursed Mason can finish off the job if your Bozo recruit theory correct. You can't have both because if the mason reveals himself he will be lynched! So, MASON PLEASE STAY HIDDEN.
How do you trust RHK? If you think he is town, who is your scum?

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:16 pm
by bozotheclown
Squigs44 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:07 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:49 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:09 pm
Brain you're being an idiot and we both know it. You're probably cult follower trying to bait a vote on yourself to protect your recruiter.

Damo - CJG was likely the Mason bless late night just based on the urges of players. Since he didn't die, I think lynching him is not optimal. This is one upside to mason claiming, since they would be able to give us a clear. Since mason hasn't claimed, I think we all need to consolidate on RHK as cult recruiter option.
Would you consider voting Bozo or Neph?
Bozo isn't cult. I've made this argument multiple times, and Bozo just posted it himself. He can't be N1 curser. He wouldn't have been N1 recruiter after being second wagon. He also wouldn't have been recruited N1. It's possible he was recruited N2 but unlikely, and we should go for a cult leader.

Neph is possible. I think RHK is better, and is more likely N1 recruiter. But Neph is a strong possibility for N1 curser.
I don't think we can rule out damo as the N1 curser either, and worcej could be the N2 recruit since the cult knew he was not a mason.

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:34 pm
by damo666
Squigs44 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:07 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:49 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:09 pm
Brain you're being an idiot and we both know it. You're probably cult follower trying to bait a vote on yourself to protect your recruiter.

Damo - CJG was likely the Mason bless late night just based on the urges of players. Since he didn't die, I think lynching him is not optimal. This is one upside to mason claiming, since they would be able to give us a clear. Since mason hasn't claimed, I think we all need to consolidate on RHK as cult recruiter option.
Would you consider voting Bozo or Neph?
Bozo isn't cult. I've made this argument multiple times, and Bozo just posted it himself. He can't be N1 curser. He wouldn't have been N1 recruiter after being second wagon. He also wouldn't have been recruited N1. It's possible he was recruited N2 but unlikely, and we should go for a cult leader.

Neph is possible. I think RHK is better, and is more likely N1 recruiter. But Neph is a strong possibility for N1 curser.
Ok I'll tell you exactly where I'm at.

I think we are 6-3.

I think scum BOTH blessed AND recruited Jamie N1 (or maybe recruited a blessed Worcej).

I assume scum recruited Fox last night (or poss Worcej, doesn't really matter.

I'm townreading all of Bozo, Squigs and demonRHK.

As mason missed last night he may have been trying to nab an off cursepool recruiter and failed.

I therefore think both cult leaders are in the cursepool and knowing it's not me it must be 2 of brain/Neph/DrCJG. Of these I find brain towniest.

I will stick with my vote on DrCJG at the moment and invite fellow townies to join me. If it's 6-3 we control the vote and mason could even consider revealing himself. I could switch to Neph if DrCJG unpopular.

I am particularly looking for responses from Bozo, Squigs, demonRHK, worcej and brain.

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:40 pm
by Squigs44
damo666 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:34 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:07 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:49 pm


Would you consider voting Bozo or Neph?
Bozo isn't cult. I've made this argument multiple times, and Bozo just posted it himself. He can't be N1 curser. He wouldn't have been N1 recruiter after being second wagon. He also wouldn't have been recruited N1. It's possible he was recruited N2 but unlikely, and we should go for a cult leader.

Neph is possible. I think RHK is better, and is more likely N1 recruiter. But Neph is a strong possibility for N1 curser.
Ok I'll tell you exactly where I'm at.

I think we are 6-3.

I think scum BOTH blessed AND recruited Jamie N1 (or maybe recruited a blessed Worcej).

I assume scum recruited Fox last night (or poss Worcej, doesn't really matter.

I'm townreading all of Bozo, Squigs and demonRHK.

As mason missed last night he may have been trying to nab an off cursepool recruiter and failed.

I therefore think both cult leaders are in the cursepool and knowing it's not me it must be 2 of brain/Neph/DrCJG. Of these I find brain towniest.

I will stick with my vote on DrCJG at the moment and invite fellow townies to join me. If it's 6-3 we control the vote and mason could even consider revealing himself. I could switch to Neph if DrCJG unpopular.

I am particularly looking for responses from Bozo, Squigs, demonRHK, worcej and brain.
In what world would cult recruit someone AND curse them? C'mon damo, use your head.

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:47 pm
by Squigs44
Damo I'll do some rereading later today and see if I can solve a bit more with the info we have.

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:51 pm
by bozotheclown
I think I was wrong about DrCJG. DemonRHK and damo may be the cult leaders and possibly recruited brainbomb N1 and worcej N2.

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:59 pm
by damo666
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:51 pm
I think I was wrong about DrCJG. DemonRHK and damo may be the cult leaders and possibly recruited brainbomb N1 and worcej N2.
Possible obviously but o so wrong.

I was pushing a demon vote both days!!

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:23 pm
by bozotheclown
damo666 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:59 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:51 pm
I think I was wrong about DrCJG. DemonRHK and damo may be the cult leaders and possibly recruited brainbomb N1 and worcej N2.
Possible obviously but o so wrong.

I was pushing a demon vote both days!!
damo666 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:08 pm
Bb tell me who I should switch to?
brainbomb wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:15 pm
damo666 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:08 pm
Bb tell me who I should switch to?
Rhk
damo666 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:17 pm
##vote demonRHK

Is this what you mean by pushing a DemonRHK vote D1? This would also explain why you might recruit brainbomb N1.

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:36 pm
by damo666
I voted him both days but didn't end up on him

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:40 pm
by damo666
DrCJG & Neph are laughing at us.

Nobody was recruited N1.

Fox N2.

Betya.

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:41 pm
by damo666
VOTE the Dr

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:42 pm
by damo666
Won't be back for about 18 hours

Re: Cultafia Game Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:01 pm
by dargorygel
Vote Count 3.02

DemonRHK (2): bozotheclown, squigs44
DrCJG (2): damo666, worcej
Squigs44 (1): brain
Bozotheclown (1): DemonRHK

End: Brainbomb (squigs44)

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