MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

[damo666]

What does this mean?

Do you actually believe it?

a) he's the only one out of the three with highest frequency count who is voting Tem

b) it's a method!

Main thing is it seems to have sparked some conversation.

Explain the Tem thing to me?

Can you elaborate on your methodology for excluding pairs?

Or give examples of the pairs excluded and why?

I think that’s more interesting than your frequency “math”

I initially scumread Tem but the fact that his current four voters making him top wagon are all 'off sweeters' causes me doubt.

PS I didn't call it 'math(s)'. It's a method. I'm just trying to whittle down the 260 possible teams (fmpov). I just talk about it and report it badly.

[damo666]

Good question!

@damo: can you elaborate on some pairs you excluded?

Did you exclude any thruples but allowed subpairs?

Base assumption: no bussers on sweet
Secondary: excluded certain pairings for my own reasons

Why no bussers? Didn’t you answer the survey with a 1?

Changed my mind (at least for the sake of this exercise).

[BunnyGo]

Good question!

@damo: can you elaborate on some pairs you excluded?

Did you exclude any thruples but allowed subpairs?

Base assumption: no bussers on sweet
Secondary: excluded certain pairings for my own reasons

No Bussers? Buddy are you crazy? These bitches love to bus, they'd be driving kids to school if we'd let em.

Who do you think most likely bussers are?

[damo666]

Three people had 11.

So that’s math contradiction several ways.

What’s up damo?

Lol.

And I've discarded my notes. Cba recreating the whole thing but I'll provide a couple of exluded pairs by way of example.

Can you provide us the updated numbers too?

What’s CBA?

Only by recreating it.

Can't be arsed.

[BunnyGo]

Base assumption: no bussers on sweet
Secondary: excluded certain pairings for my own reasons

Why no bussers? Didn’t you answer the survey with a 1?

Changed my mind (at least for the sake of this exercise).

Why? Doesn’t that greatly reduce the possible triples and skew results a lot?

[BunnyGo]

Lol.

And I've discarded my notes. Cba recreating the whole thing but I'll provide a couple of exluded pairs by way of example.

Can you provide us the updated numbers too?

What’s CBA?

Only by recreating it.

Can't be arsed.

Do you work on paper? Excel?

[damo666]

Good question!

@damo: can you elaborate on some pairs you excluded?

Did you exclude any thruples but allowed subpairs?

Base assumption: no bussers on sweet
Secondary: excluded certain pairings for my own reasons

No Bussers? Buddy are you crazy? These bitches love to bus, they'd be driving kids to school if we'd let em.

Got to happen sometime. Who are possible bussers iyo?

[BunnyGo]

a) he's the only one out of the three with highest frequency count who is voting Tem

b) it's a method!

Main thing is it seems to have sparked some conversation.

Explain the Tem thing to me?

Can you elaborate on your methodology for excluding pairs?

Or give examples of the pairs excluded and why?

I think that’s more interesting than your frequency “math”

I initially scumread Tem but the fact that his current four voters making him top wagon are all 'off sweeters' causes me doubt.

PS I didn't call it 'math(s)'. It's a method. I'm just trying to whittle down the 260 possible teams (fmpov). I just talk about it and report it badly.

Has Tem done anything to change your mind? Or just ghe people voting him?

[BunnyGo]

Well. They just called me. Thanks for keeping me company. Back in a while.

In the meantime ##vote damo. Bad math damo = NAI. But the repeated not caring about mismathing and general lack of interest seems bored. Bored damo is scum damo.

Only thing that gives me pause is I’d think scum!Damo would at least check the numbers of his frequencies before claiming the sum is 27. But maybe he’s at the pub? Maybe he’s just that bored?

[rdrivera2005]

Do you feel like you're playing/feeling differently than normal this game?

I've been surprised by several of your posts.

No, I don't think I am playing differently, at least from my last games.

What is surprising you?

You’re both sharper (re: Just) and more frustrated (see post above to Tem).

It’s not my usual picture of you. I think of you as calm Brazilian on the beach.

Well, I haven't been on a beach since April, so maybe that's why, lol.

On a serious note, I am sharp sometimes and even frustrated both not this game. I am really tryng to understand Tem because I am voting him and he is the leading wagon and his last answer to me is making me question a bit my vote.

[damo666]

Can you provide us the updated numbers too?

What’s CBA?

Only by recreating it.

Can't be arsed.

Do you work on paper? Excel?

I virtually live on Excel however I did this on the back of an envelope.

Going to make a cup of tea. Back in 5.

[damo666]

Explain the Tem thing to me?

Can you elaborate on your methodology for excluding pairs?

Or give examples of the pairs excluded and why?

I think that’s more interesting than your frequency “math”

I initially scumread Tem but the fact that his current four voters making him top wagon are all 'off sweeters' causes me doubt.

PS I didn't call it 'math(s)'. It's a method. I'm just trying to whittle down the 260 possible teams (fmpov). I just talk about it and report it badly.

Has Tem done anything to change your mind? Or just ghe people voting him?

Not just ghe people voting him, he has improved somewhat.

[damo666]

Well. They just called me. Thanks for keeping me company. Back in a while.

In the meantime ##vote damo. Bad math damo = NAI. But the repeated not caring about mismathing and general lack of interest seems bored. Bored damo is scum damo.

Only thing that gives me pause is I’d think scum!Damo would at least check the numbers of his frequencies before claiming the sum is 27. But maybe he’s at the pub? Maybe he’s just that bored?

I keep him company, answer his questions, he realises I can't be scum or I'd be more careful and votes me anyway!

Scummy rabbit.

[TheMadMonarch]

Good morning Macca.

Any thoughts?

I'm liking Jamie and Ghug

Not liking Tem and Damo

Bona and Bozo hold special places in my heart and are unlikely to catch votes.

Some severe OMGUSing going on here

In retrospect, I guess it is.

Ghug is a usual townread from me. I like the way he thinks, plays and defends. Nothing about him seems off, and I'd like to keep him around.

Jamie is a bit of a shock. When I played back in the day, jamie and I did not get along, but he's been great this game. Attacking and defending ideas I also supported.

Bozo is a genius and a huge town asset, I support him long before I get a read on him.

I can't forsake Bob by voting bona with no good reason. Also, that guy is constantly D1'd and we all had a responsibility to stop that from happening again.


Tem. I know it looks OMGUS coming from me, but as many have said, the way you acted on D1 around voting me was suspicious. Others have explained it better than I could, and you all have zero reason to believe it coming from me.

Damo. For me, the read came from this post [editors note: 1am me is tired and cannot remember what post it was. Likely something where he hides behind math and poor assumptions]


Hope that helps you!

[damo666]

The winner of the 253 at Lingfield is quite amusing.

[rdrivera2005]

I believe Bona is town and Macca is likely scum

So could you explain me why scum Macca is more likely then town Macca to make a sudden change after a aub if the person subbed is town? This is the main reason I am voting you, you jumped on Macca and stayed on it with a reason that doesn't make sense.

It's weird to change vote because you like the people who subbed in? Yes it is. It's scum indicative? No, it's completely NAI to me. And I think town Temasek would approach this differently.

Not much happens D1, something "weird" is enough to cause a vote to be placed.

The way I see it, ND/Bona is an easy target to jump on/miskill due to ND's somewhat hostile (but NAI) opening posts and the substitution that causes chaos. So I paid close attention to those who voted Bona to see the reasons they voted for him. sweet caught my attention, and so did Macca. Those were the only 2 people I voted for on D1 at any point.

At one point, my logic was that scum Macca thought ND/Bona is an easy target to miskill D1, but then felt bad because of her out of game relation with Bona, and therefore voted no kill instead.

Later on I realised this was probably NAI, and responded to I think either Jamie or bozo who questioned me about this early on D2.

My current reasoning for voting Macca on D2 is that she has just been lurking too hard, half her posts are about her out of game relation with Bona, she had never expanded on any townreads or scumreads. And her only 2 scumreads are people who scumread her.

I still don't agree with your take on Macca D1 voting as I think scum Macca will worry a lot more about how that sudden change will look like.
But I liked this post a lot more then your others before.

##vote Damo as accordingly to my gaussisn distribution of British pairs he is more likely to be scum then Jamiet.

[damo666]

Gaussian rdr

[rdrivera2005]

Gaussian rdr

##unvote

In fact I doesn't really scumread you, just can't understand people's reasoning. I am probably getting too old for this.

@#vote Chaqa

[TheMadMonarch]

re-reads suggesting a tem/damo scumteam... damo (rightfully) identifies tem as maf, goes to maf chat, come day 2 damo says

According to my calcs based on certain (undisclosed) assumptions there are far too few triples Tem could be part of so I'm moving my vote.

##vote Chaqa - suspiciously quiet

So a secret reason for not voting a guy who you agreed was scummy (cause now he's catching a lot of votes and you can't afford to lose another one)

[TheMadMonarch]

That's enough tinfoil for me tonight/thisMorning. I'm going to bed. Have fun, Kill tem!