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Temasek22 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:27 pm

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:24 pm

Temasek22 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:22 pm

*the Commonwealth of Nations disliked this comment*

Hmm. So the only game I remember you from you were a solo scum of a type.

Why did you disappear? Why come back?

I actually lost multiple games in a row both as town and scum, my only previous win was as a substitute who did pretty much nothing. Meanwhile, IRL got busy and I missed turns in Diplomacy games and CDed out of multiple of them. I ended up not using the site for a long while, only coming back because one day I randomly remembered it and had free time.

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:28 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:14 pm

It's some weird mathing damo, and doesn't there have to be some absolute truths for it to work? I'm not mathematician, but...

Their called assumptions. They may we wrong but after all this is just a contrived guessing game. I like to rationalise my guesses.

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:20 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:13 pm

##vote rdr (value)

What does this mean?

Do you actually believe it?

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:32 pm

This milkshake is awful.

Sickly vanilla.

Made in French Canada…

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:33 pm

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:20 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:13 pm

##vote rdr (value)

What does this mean?

Do you actually believe it?

a) he's the only one out of the three with highest frequency count who is voting Tem

b) it's a method!

Main thing is it seems to have sparked some conversation.

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:34 pm

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:32 pm

This milkshake is awful.

Sickly vanilla.

Made in French Canada…

Ugh. Just finished my 900 ml.

Now to sit around until they call me.

Who is here to solve this with me?

Or just fill up the thread with chatter.

Temasek22 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:24 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:11 pm

heartthrob24909 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:33 pm

What do you mean frequency? Not sure I understand where this list / numbers are coming from.

Firstly I assumed certain players were town and then of the remainder I identified any pairs I deemed unlikely. I then listed all the possible teams of the three remaining scum and then counted how many times each individual player appeared in different teams. This gives a frequency count per player as listed above.

So for example although I think Tem may be scum there are only 2 teams I think he can be in so imo he is not a value vote.

Hope this helps.

Out of curiosity, are Chaqa, Ham and rdr's 11 possible teams in your model here similar? As in neither have had enough interaction with the other possible scum to have too many pairs deemed unlikely?

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:38 pm

Temasek22 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:24 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:11 pm

Firstly I assumed certain players were town and then of the remainder I identified any pairs I deemed unlikely. I then listed all the possible teams of the three remaining scum and then counted how many times each individual player appeared in different teams. This gives a frequency count per player as listed above.

So for example although I think Tem may be scum there are only 2 teams I think he can be in so imo he is not a value vote.

Hope this helps.

Out of curiosity, are Chaqa, Ham and rdr's 11 possible teams in your model here similar? As in neither have had enough interaction with the other possible scum to have too many pairs deemed unlikely?

If you add the scores it sums to 27 indicating 9 possible teams. I don't particulatly wish to disclose which pairs I excluded.

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:26 pm

Temasek22 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:24 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:11 pm

Firstly I assumed certain players were town and then of the remainder I identified any pairs I deemed unlikely. I then listed all the possible teams of the three remaining scum and then counted how many times each individual player appeared in different teams. This gives a frequency count per player as listed above.

So for example although I think Tem may be scum there are only 2 teams I think he can be in so imo he is not a value vote.

Hope this helps.

Out of curiosity, are Chaqa, Ham and rdr's 11 possible teams in your model here similar? As in neither have had enough interaction with the other possible scum to have too many pairs deemed unlikely?

Good question!

@damo: can you elaborate on some pairs you excluded?

Did you exclude any thruples but allowed subpairs?

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:38 pm

Temasek22 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:24 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:11 pm

Firstly I assumed certain players were town and then of the remainder I identified any pairs I deemed unlikely. I then listed all the possible teams of the three remaining scum and then counted how many times each individual player appeared in different teams. This gives a frequency count per player as listed above.

So for example although I think Tem may be scum there are only 2 teams I think he can be in so imo he is not a value vote.

Hope this helps.

Out of curiosity, are Chaqa, Ham and rdr's 11 possible teams in your model here similar? As in neither have had enough interaction with the other possible scum to have too many pairs deemed unlikely?

If you add the scores it sums to 27 indicating 9 possible teams. I don't particulatly wish to disclose which pairs I excluded.

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:39 pm

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:26 pm

Temasek22 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:24 pm

Out of curiosity, are Chaqa, Ham and rdr's 11 possible teams in your model here similar? As in neither have had enough interaction with the other possible scum to have too many pairs deemed unlikely?

Good question!

@damo: can you elaborate on some pairs you excluded?

Did you exclude any thruples but allowed subpairs?

Base assumption: no bussers on sweet
Secondary: excluded certain pairings for my own reasons

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:27 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:26 pm

My preferred vote today is

1) rdr (high value and voting Tem)
2) Bunny (voting Tem, slightly less value)
3&4) Ham (high value, vanity voting) or Chaqa (high value, voting stupidly)
5) heart (lesser value voting Tem)
6) Macca (least value voting Tem)
7) Tem
8) in the unlikely event none of the above are viable wagons I'll just have to vote ghug

I hope to be around at EOD and will vote in accordance with above preference subject to the constraint of getting a likely kill (so, if things stood as they are now at T-2 I'd be forced to vote my 7th choice).

All the above is dramatic events notwithstanding.

What does “subject to the constraint of getting a likely kill” mean?

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:29 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:28 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:14 pm

It's some weird mathing damo, and doesn't there have to be some absolute truths for it to work? I'm not mathematician, but...

Their called assumptions. They may we wrong but after all this is just a contrived guessing game. I like to rationalise my guesses.

Dislike your British use of “they’re”

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:40 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:38 pm

Temasek22 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:24 pm

Out of curiosity, are Chaqa, Ham and rdr's 11 possible teams in your model here similar? As in neither have had enough interaction with the other possible scum to have too many pairs deemed unlikely?

If you add the scores it sums to 27 indicating 9 possible teams. I don't particulatly wish to disclose which pairs I excluded.

Three people had 11.

So that’s math contradiction several ways.

What’s up damo?

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:47 pm

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:40 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:38 pm

If you add the scores it sums to 27 indicating 9 possible teams. I don't particulatly wish to disclose which pairs I excluded.

Three people had 11.

So that’s math contradiction several ways.

What’s up damo?

Lol.

And I've discarded my notes. Cba recreating the whole thing but I'll provide a couple of exluded pairs by way of example.

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:29 pm

Temasek22 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:27 pm

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:24 pm

Hmm. So the only game I remember you from you were a solo scum of a type.

Why did you disappear? Why come back?

I actually lost multiple games in a row both as town and scum, my only previous win was as a substitute who did pretty much nothing. Meanwhile, IRL got busy and I missed turns in Diplomacy games and CDed out of multiple of them. I ended up not using the site for a long while, only coming back because one day I randomly remembered it and had free time.

Hmm. And any thoughts on why you lost a bunch? Besides the game being hard?

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:48 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:47 pm

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:40 pm

Three people had 11.

So that’s math contradiction several ways.

What’s up damo?

Lol.

And I've discarded my notes. Cba recreating the whole thing but I'll provide a couple of exluded pairs by way of example.

Can you provide us the updated numbers too?

What’s CBA?

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:39 pm

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:26 pm

Temasek22 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:24 pm

Out of curiosity, are Chaqa, Ham and rdr's 11 possible teams in your model here similar? As in neither have had enough interaction with the other possible scum to have too many pairs deemed unlikely?

Good question!

@damo: can you elaborate on some pairs you excluded?

Did you exclude any thruples but allowed subpairs?

Base assumption: no bussers on sweet
Secondary: excluded certain pairings for my own reasons