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xorxes wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:56 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:43 pm

##vote Xorxes for 3rd party claim.

Do you believe I'm 3rd party and want to lynch the 3rd party?

Or you don't believe the claim and you think I'm scum pretending to be 3rd party?

Or you don't believe the claim and your bet was that we would lynch town today?

The third part seems to imply that xorxes isn't survivor, but then again it feels like he is reaction testing

e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:38 pm

xorxes wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:31 pm

yuuki wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:09 am

It's D2. If there is a 1% chance of Vapor being scum, that means there is a 99% chance of him being town. That is as sure as you can get of anything on D2. He is as good as cleared town for now. If he survives a few more nights that may change as there is no legit reason why scum would leave a cleared townie alive for long (other than his reads being absolute crap).

The only thing weird about Vapor is that he posted before the GM posted the night results, which means he already knew he was not going to die. There are different explanations for why that may be the case, and as you say, it will get resolved.

?
Are you baiting or something lol (since this seems like a completely useless detail to focus/comment on. As in, I agree with the sentiment behind it, but all the posting means is that the GM did or didn't send a death notice? not quite sure about the weird part

Plus one!

Vaporwave wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:54 pm

yuuki wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:51 pm

True, but this will get sorted in due time.

xorxes concentrating on the timing of my posting before D2 is not great either.

I will say that posting before D2 wasn't supposed to happen and I'm sorry for that to GMs

Pls don't speculate when I received private messages, xorxes

I am not speculating, I'm saying it doesn't matter because it will sort itself out.

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:30 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:40 am

##Vote Damo666 because Vecna said so.

Are you sheeping Vecna?

No!

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:00 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:30 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:40 am

##Vote Damo666 because Vecna said so.

Are you sheeping Vecna?

No!

I see what you did there

Temasek22 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:42 pm

Percy Williams wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:02 am

Right now I Town read Jamiet, Raging Ike, and Vapour.
Temask has this vibe of just coasting, without feeling the need to try. I'm not sure if he has confidence in Town, is comfortable with scum team guidance or just always has that vibe.
@Itshosuke: Does Temask always have that vibe?

Do I give out that vibe? Idk, but I have more confidence in the rest of you compared to myself, as I know nearly zero of the meta

Yeah, when you say you have more confidence in the rest of us than yourself, You summarized it well. It's like you know you're going to win, but acknowledge it won't be from your actions. Not necessarily bad, but it by no means puts you in a solid Town slot by itself.

xorxes wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:47 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:38 pm

xorxes wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:31 pm

The only thing weird about Vapor is that he posted before the GM posted the night results, which means he already knew he was not going to die. There are different explanations for why that may be the case, and as you say, it will get resolved.

?
Are you baiting or something lol (since this seems like a completely useless detail to focus/comment on. As in, I agree with the sentiment behind it, but all the posting means is that the GM did or didn't send a death notice? not quite sure about the weird part

If he was jailed, he was not allowed to post at night. If he had died in jail, he would not be allowed to post next day either. He posted before the GM announced who had died, therefore he knew before the GM's post that he would not die. There are several explanations for how he could have known that.

I see what you're getting at, but it would be pretty weird to jail someone and then kill them. Unless jailing blocked a skill that prevents death.

Percy Williams wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:11 pm

xorxes wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:47 pm

If he was jailed, he was not allowed to post at night. If he had died in jail, he would not be allowed to post next day either. He posted before the GM announced who had died, therefore he knew before the GM's post that he would not die. There are several explanations for how he could have known that.

I see what you're getting at, but it would be pretty weird to jail someone and then kill them. Unless jailing blocked a skill that prevents death.

I will take that as a townslip for now. Read the Jailer role.

Would scum xorx really be this fucking dumb regarding the setup or could it be an attempt at a fake townslip?

Anyway, Vapor still hasn't given us a straight answer. Which is scummy. But, if he's not scum and they went ham on him we'll know in about 30 hours.

@Jamie: You were all in on the xorx wagon for a good chunk of day 1. What are your thoughts on it now?

xorxes wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:18 pm

Percy Williams wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:11 pm

xorxes wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:47 pm

If he was jailed, he was not allowed to post at night. If he had died in jail, he would not be allowed to post next day either. He posted before the GM announced who had died, therefore he knew before the GM's post that he would not die. There are several explanations for how he could have known that.

I see what you're getting at, but it would be pretty weird to jail someone and then kill them. Unless jailing blocked a skill that prevents death.

I will take that as a townslip for now. Read the Jailer role.

Actually, I should take my own advice and reread it. If the prisoner is stabbed they don't die immediately as I thought, so even if he was stabbed he would be able to post. So part of what I said was wrong.

it's not over til it's actually over

Oh, the stab is delayed? Hmmm.

Vapor, do you know if you were stabbed or not?

Percy Williams wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:10 pm

Temasek22 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:42 pm

Percy Williams wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:02 am

Right now I Town read Jamiet, Raging Ike, and Vapour.
Temask has this vibe of just coasting, without feeling the need to try. I'm not sure if he has confidence in Town, is comfortable with scum team guidance or just always has that vibe.
@Itshosuke: Does Temask always have that vibe?

Do I give out that vibe? Idk, but I have more confidence in the rest of you compared to myself, as I know nearly zero of the meta

Yeah, when you say you have more confidence in the rest of us than yourself, You summarized it well. It's like you know you're going to win, but acknowledge it won't be from your actions. Not necessarily bad, but it by no means puts you in a solid Town slot by itself.

Actually, saying he has more confidence in others than in himself makes him very scummy.

If you are town the only one you know is not biased by mafia opionions is your own opinion. 'Trusting' others blindly is the opposite of what a townie should be doing. Sheeping votes is scummy. His excuse for doing so is even scummier as knowing the meta or not is nothing more than WIFOM.

##VOTE Temasek
##END

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:27 pm

Oh, the stab is delayed? Hmmm.

were you stabbed or not?

No, I was released without any further action

xorxes wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:24 pm

xorxes wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:18 pm

Percy Williams wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:11 pm

I see what you're getting at, but it would be pretty weird to jail someone and then kill them. Unless jailing blocked a skill that prevents death.

I will take that as a townslip for now. Read the Jailer role.

Actually, I should take my own advice and reread it. If the prisoner is stabbed they don't die immediately as I thought, so even if he was stabbed he would be able to post. So part of what I said was wrong.

You are right. I had to go reread it too. Hadn't noticed it.

@Vapor: if you were stabbed can you share that with us? This is pretty relevant information at this point.

Vaporwave wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:37 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:27 pm

Oh, the stab is delayed? Hmmm.

were you stabbed or not?

No, I was released without any further action

Sorry hadn't seen this until after my post

yuuki has been pulling punches left and right

most confident townread, surpasses Vecna and everyone on all levels

no way this guy is scum

yuuki wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:34 pm

Percy Williams wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:10 pm

Temasek22 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:42 pm

Do I give out that vibe? Idk, but I have more confidence in the rest of you compared to myself, as I know nearly zero of the meta

Yeah, when you say you have more confidence in the rest of us than yourself, You summarized it well. It's like you know you're going to win, but acknowledge it won't be from your actions. Not necessarily bad, but it by no means puts you in a solid Town slot by itself.

Actually, saying he has more confidence in others than in himself makes him very scummy.

If you are town the only one you know is not biased by mafia opionions is your own opinion. 'Trusting' others blindly is the opposite of what a townie should be doing. Sheeping votes is scummy. His excuse for doing so is even scummier as knowing the meta or not is nothing more than WIFOM.

I still think this one could go either way, but only because he's new to Webdip Mafia. I think it depends a lot on his personality, thus my question to Itshosuke. I know I was completely useless in my first games, and are only marginally better now, so any win would not be because of me. I think this is NAI at best, scummy behavior at worst. The main reason I phrased my reply the way I did is because I don't currently Scum read him, and didn't want to give the impression I was contradicting myself by not voting for him.