MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

[Balki Bartokomous]

Balki, do you still think Ike is scum?

If so, do you really think I would have bussed him that hard day one?

If not, do you believe I'm stupid enough to not roleblock him?

Shame on you.

@ghug, the "ghug never busses" defense is going to be a weak one, don't you think? You love to bus!

[Foxcastle]

Seems like he is clearly accusing TrPrado of being scum.

What am I missing, @Foxy Knoxy?

I dunno. It strikes me as off. Maybe it's the "let me say stupid things to make myself look like scum while you build up a small anti-Telamor posse." Why is Telamor presuming he's going to look scummy? I guess you're right, though, the accusation that TrPrado is scum is implicit.

[RagingIke297]

Balki, do you still think Ike is scum?

If so, do you really think I would have bussed him that hard day one?

If not, do you believe I'm stupid enough to not roleblock him?

Shame on you.

Ghug making himself look good no matter how I flip, its pretty convenient that I haven't been roleblocked so you can use that if not statement, isn't it ghug?

[yavuzovic]

@balki, Call me however you want but yazu. I will change this nickname when I find a way.

Telamor is probably only player accusing Prado of being scum or I missed others. TrP was a townread for me - he works and solves game, helpful and long posts. But I don't have a concrete evidence to townread him.

[ghug]

Balki, do you still think Ike is scum?

If so, do you really think I would have bussed him that hard day one?

If not, do you believe I'm stupid enough to not roleblock him?

Shame on you.

@ghug, the "ghug never busses" defense is going to be a weak one, don't you think? You love to bus!

When there's reason to bus, sure. Sacrificing a teammate on day one when there really isn't pressure otherwise is really not my style.


It's not convenient, Ike. If you're somehow town, the mafia are fucking idiots and I thank them for leaving you to your powerful devices.

[dargorygel]

I could vote for Telemor, Darg.

Secondly, Prado I don't know how you expect new players to act but I am not shy retiring violet by nature. I'm also not being coached, I'm still fumbling around and trying to figure out which end of this game is which. I think that's been pretty obvious so far which makes me wonder if you just reckon I'll be an easy lynch because I'm new. Let me say stupid things to make myself look like scum while you build up a small anti-Telamor posse. Get me lynched then when it turns out I'm townie just.shrug your shoulders and blame it on my being new. One townie down for minimal effort.

I think this is scummy. Because I've seen other newbie scum do it. Also, does it strike anyone else like Telamor is not quite accusing TrPrado of being scum here? I guess at the end, "one townie down for minimal effort" makes heavy implications, but does Telamor know that TrPrado is town and that's why his defense isn't a full on scumread?

@telamor, why are you voting for Ezio right now?

In all honesty out of pettiness. Ezio voted for me so I voted back. It gave me a reason to vote for someone even if not a very constructive one. If I was voting to advance town interests I would vote for you. The sooner we can open up Schrodinger's Ike the sooner we can crack on in my opinion. The Scum already know if yo u're town or not and will be acting on the basis of that knowledge as long as we don't have it we're a step behind them. That said there doesn't seem to be much support for my view so I assume it isn't as simple as it appears to be to me.

And then this explanation for voting Ezio also strikes me as the type of play a newbie scum would make. I suspect he was told to bus Ike in the Mafia QT, and I wonder if Ike is trying to help him out here.

Then on p.49, "My main focus thus far has been on staying alive." Given that there had only been two votes on him ever when he said that (Xorxes Day 1, Ezio Day 2 about 22 hours prior to the statement), it looks like the guilty flee when no one pursueth.

##VOTE TELAMOR

My reasons for a possible telamor vote are twofold. First, I didn't like his "I don't know anything... If I were scum I would know things" defense/comments. Even slipping in some "I don't know acronyms," it seems like an attempt to avoid votes. But mostly, his call to lynch Ike, even though an uncc'd PR. It reads like a rookie scum suggestion, to me.

[yavuzovic]

What does mean bussing?

[Foxcastle]

What does mean bussing?

When scum vote for scum to make it look like they're town. It's short for "to throw under the bus".

[dargorygel]

What does mean bussing?

Voting for, and especially causing the lynching of, a fellow scum team member.

[dargorygel]

@ghug, jamie, and prado
You have made differing statements about how experienced the scum team is. Can you elaborate? And do you think it will help us narrow down likely scum team members?

[ghug]

@ghug, jamie, and prado
You have made differing statements about how experienced the scum team is. Can you elaborate? And do you think it will help us narrow down likely scum team members?

If Ike is town, the scum are morons. The nightkills suggest the scum aren't morons (and more specifically that the scum are Ezio, especially combined with the roleblock play), or at least that they're experienced.

I'm thus like 80% on three of the scum being Ike, Ezio, Telamor. The other two could be anyone really, since the experience is covered.

Townreads are:
Darg
Peter
Rd
Snowy
Jamie

I'll slight town bo and demon.

Order of scum likelihood:
Ike
Telamor ##vote Telamor thought I did that already
Ezio
Foxygen
Tham
Balki
Yav
DrC

[ghug]

Forgot Prado. Throw him in near the bottom.

[Jamiet99uk]

Balki I'm inclined to believe you and my vote will move to Ghug if you answer me one question.

Those walls of gibberish you posted twice, the fake encryption or whatever? The fuck was that, please?

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Snowy,

Where you at, bro?

You better be scum this game. If you're Town, you're just aggravating. You always seem to catch me when I'm scum, but when I roll town, you phone it in?

[yavuzovic]

Thank you Fox and Darg. But this must be a tactic to use when you are very desperate. Otherwise I can't see a reason to kill a scummate. We have more man, this would be quite harmful for the scumteam.

[ghug]

Balki I'm inclined to believe you and my vote will move to Ghug if you answer me one question.

Those walls of gibberish you posted twice, the fake encryption or whatever? The fuck was that, please?

You're inclined to believe all the convincing arguments he hasn't made?

[yavuzovic]

"And should I keep my copread secret?. That doesn't sound like a good idea to announce it."

I couldn't take an answer for that question. And this is an important question.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Balki I'm inclined to believe you and my vote will move to Ghug if you answer me one question.

Those walls of gibberish you posted twice, the fake encryption or whatever? The fuck was that, please?

Sorry man. I have a cat, a dog, and two toddlers. Sometimes they get a hold of my typewriter.

[DemonRHK]

Why is yavu asking about bussing now? He’s been in games where ‘bussing’ has definitely been used. He’s full on acting like he’s had a lobotomy after the last two games...

[RagingIke297]

##vote ghug

I'm pretty sure about this one. ghug knows why.

Is this just trying to be funny? I can't believe that you think this is subtle. But I am not liking it. You might consider this a question, but you haven't answered earlier questions about your cat typing... so I am not sure what to expect from you.

Anyone have any ideas about Balki's fakish claiming?

I'm not trying to be funny and I don't have a cat.

Let's lynch ghug please.

Balki I'm inclined to believe you and my vote will move to Ghug if you answer me one question.

Those walls of gibberish you posted twice, the fake encryption or whatever? The fuck was that, please?

Sorry man. I have a cat, a dog, and two toddlers. Sometimes they get a hold of my typewriter.

I'm very confused, why are you lying Balki?