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Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:59 pm
by damo666
Current thoughts (principally note to self)
TOWN
brain, Chaqa, ghug
SLIGHT TOWN
bozo, Jamie
NULL
Bona, Pyxxy
SLIGHT SCUM
Flum, Bunny, Eden
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:00 pm
by brainbomb
thoughts and scenarios
the scumteam killed rivera because eden and pyxxy are both scum and rivera was maybe doc
the scumteam killed rivera because they thought he was doc
the scumteam killed rivera because all his reads were wrong and they want town to over analyze and waste time wondering about it
the scumteam killed rivera eden is scum but not with pyxxy and bunny-ghug are town so mafia couldnt be obvious and kill them. mafia also wanted to hit doc but also wanted to give eden one less voter. so they chose rivera to get pyxxy killed since pyxxy is rising up better now.
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:02 pm
by Chaqa
Maybe they're using the magic 8-ball
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:02 pm
by President Eden
there is no actual argument or evidence or anything to even engage with here and it’s infuriating
tell me what I should be doing here instead because I’m at a loss. was I supposed to have hard solved the game in two IRL days with one town flip?
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:03 pm
by President Eden
well ok two now but you get what I mean
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:04 pm
by Chaqa
Gotta be honest I really dig these shortened phases.
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:05 pm
by brainbomb
President Eden wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:02 pm
there is no actual argument or evidence or anything to even engage with here and it’s infuriating
tell me what I should be doing here instead because I’m at a loss. was I supposed to have hard solved the game in two IRL days with one town flip?
there are totally things you can discuss
like either the mafia team wanted to kill one of your would be voters because they felt he was the doc
or the mafia is trying to set up riveras reads to seem accurate
those are the two thoughts youd likely have
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:06 pm
by Jamiet99uk
brainbomb wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:42 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:39 pm
Brain, are you suggesting that I am scum with Eden and Bozo?
Is that your theory?
yea. I am. but it could be some permutation like jamie-pyxxy-eden or bozo-jamie-eden. something in that range.
im more of the mind that damo is scum with bozo but im toying with this idea maybe eden got spooked seeing his whole team up for grabs
Earlier in this phase you theorised that I would not NK Rdrivera.
What caused your theory to change?
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:06 pm
by President Eden
damo666 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:59 pm
Current thoughts (principally note to self)
TOWN
brain, Chaqa, ghug
SLIGHT TOWN
bozo, Jamie
NULL
Bona, Pyxxy
SLIGHT SCUM
Flum, Bunny, Eden
how tf does that scumteam make any sense.
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:09 pm
by brainbomb
If Mafia kills someone who thinks Town Eden is a good wagon
Then they dont want town eden to die?
and they dont care about mis chopping town eden.
they care only about finding the doc and nothing else.
do you agree with this logic line eden, jamie, chaqa?
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:09 pm
by Chaqa
I plan to vote within ghug/Flum/Bona today.
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:10 pm
by President Eden
brainbomb wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:05 pm
President Eden wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:02 pm
there is no actual argument or evidence or anything to even engage with here and it’s infuriating
tell me what I should be doing here instead because I’m at a loss. was I supposed to have hard solved the game in two IRL days with one town flip?
there are totally things you can discuss
like either the mafia team wanted to kill one of your would be voters because they felt he was the doc
or the mafia is trying to set up riveras reads to seem accurate
those are the two thoughts youd likely have
why the fuck do I matter to any of this?
the only thing I know about rdr is that he wasn’t out of anyone’s POE. so scum took a potential miskill off the table. there’s not many reasons why you do that. PR hunting is the obvious one so it’s the one I’m most likely to believe. but attempting to speculate as to whether unknown mafia ABC would have viewed rdr as enough of a threat to kill him despite him being miskillable is essentially impossible to do with any reliability.
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:14 pm
by brainbomb
Well in a world where mafia kills someone who wanted to kill you; theyre doing you a favor and improving your odds of living.
so if thats the case; scum wants you alive that would mean the kill isnt about you and its about pyxxy.
if it isnt about either of you then mafia is so comfortable that they dont care about removing POE players, theyre so comfy they dont fear you at all, theyre so comfy that this is like a drive down the freeway with the wind blowing in their hair in a convertible.
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:15 pm
by damo666
President Eden wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:06 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:59 pm
Current thoughts (principally note to self)
TOWN
brain, Chaqa, ghug
SLIGHT TOWN
bozo, Jamie
NULL
Bona, Pyxxy
SLIGHT SCUM
Flum, Bunny, Eden
how tf does that scumteam make any sense.
Why not? It probably isn't but why not?
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:15 pm
by brainbomb
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:06 pm
brainbomb wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:42 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:39 pm
Brain, are you suggesting that I am scum with Eden and Bozo?
Is that your theory?
yea. I am. but it could be some permutation like jamie-pyxxy-eden or bozo-jamie-eden. something in that range.
im more of the mind that damo is scum with bozo but im toying with this idea maybe eden got spooked seeing his whole team up for grabs
Earlier in this phase you theorised that I would not NK Rdrivera.
What caused your theory to change?
Im still thinking about if you fit in this or not. Maybe you dont. Your reactions are interesting. Not sure
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:16 pm
by brainbomb
damo666 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:15 pm
President Eden wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:06 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:59 pm
Current thoughts (principally note to self)
TOWN
brain, Chaqa, ghug
SLIGHT TOWN
bozo, Jamie
NULL
Bona, Pyxxy
SLIGHT SCUM
Flum, Bunny, Eden
how tf does that scumteam make any sense.
Why not? It probably isn't but why not?
bunny erratic eod behavior but mostly has felt town. replace bunny with jamie or pyxxy and it gets interesting too
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:17 pm
by Chaqa
brainbomb wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:09 pm
If Mafia kills someone who thinks Town Eden is a good wagon
Then they dont want town eden to die?
and they dont care about mis chopping town eden.
they care only about finding the doc and nothing else.
do you agree with this logic line eden, jamie, chaqa?
I think speculating on the nightkill is best left as a circumstantial evidence and not something we should base theories around.
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:17 pm
by brainbomb
Im engaging you in a very reasonable way eden but do you know the concept of EV in mafia? I dislike the term but do you know what it is?
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:18 pm
by brainbomb
Chaqa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:17 pm
brainbomb wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:09 pm
If Mafia kills someone who thinks Town Eden is a good wagon
Then they dont want town eden to die?
and they dont care about mis chopping town eden.
they care only about finding the doc and nothing else.
do you agree with this logic line eden, jamie, chaqa?
I think speculating on the nightkill is best left as a circumstantial evidence and not something we should base theories around.
you dont have to indulge it but its a tool and I will always use it for theory crafting
Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:19 pm
by President Eden
brainbomb wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:17 pm
Im engaging you in a very reasonable way eden but do you know the concept of EV in mafia? I dislike the term but do you know what it is?
yes