Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

#1261 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:08 am

Vecna wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:06 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:03 am
Durga wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:59 am
Ok why would bozo stay on me when the vote was literally 5 v 6 if we were scum together and when it was so easy to move on bona? Bozo just parked his vote on me both days and fucked off.
Does the record appear to show that Bozo was online at EoD either day?
(I haven't checked yet).
just checked, there does not appear to be any votes or msg's from bozo in the last few hours on either day
Hm, then it's entirely possible Bozo stayed parked on Durga simply because he wasn't around.

However, would scum Bozo really park his vote on his scum team-mate Durga on D2, when she was only just saved from the Daykill on D1, if he knew he wouldn't be around? Wouldn't that be a hugely risky place to leave his vote parked?

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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

#1262 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:15 am

Just for the record:

DAY 1:

damo666 (7) kgray, Durga, rdrivera2005, Vecna, Bonatogether, brainbomb, celaph

Durga (5) damo666, Jamiet99uk, lfischl, bozotheclown, Maniac

bozotheclown (1) dargorygel


DAY 2:

Bonatogether(6) rdrivera2005, dargorygel, Durga, kgray, Jamiet99uk, celaph
Durga (5) Bonatogether, Vecna, Maniac, bozotheclown, lfischl


Green indicates someone who has flipped town
Red indicates someone who has flipped scum
Purple indicates people still alive who are in Group 1.

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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

#1263 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:17 am

Bozo made 22 posts during his short, evil lifespan.
I am going to read them with my eyes.

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#1264 Post by Vecna » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:24 am

dont strain yourself

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#1265 Post by rdrivera2005 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:27 am

Vecna wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:30 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:23 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:16 am
8 players remain

2 scum
6 town

1 - 2 scum in the pool of Celaph / Durga / Kgray / Vecna (at least 1 guaranteed)

0 - 1 scum may be in the pool of Dargorygel / Jamiet99uk / lfischl / Rdrivera2005.
It's pretty obvious we should vote in the first pool. I am torn between Durga and Vecna. I want to do some re-read tomorrow before voting.
Just bus Durga already
If I was scum with Durga I would have bussed the hell out of her yesterday.

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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

#1266 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:27 am

Vecna wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:24 am
dont strain yourself
Are you suggesting that it is not worth re-reading Bozo?

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#1267 Post by Vecna » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:53 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:27 am
Vecna wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:24 am
dont strain yourself
Are you suggesting that it is not worth re-reading Bozo?
You shouldnt always instantly assume that people are making dumb statements

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#1268 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:56 am

Vecna wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:53 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:27 am
Vecna wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:24 am
dont strain yourself
Are you suggesting that it is not worth re-reading Bozo?
You shouldnt always instantly assume that people are making dumb statements
I'm not assuming, I'm asking.
You shouldn't instantly assume that I instantly assumed you were making a dumb statement.

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#1269 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:02 pm

I've ignored Vecna's discouraging remarks and done a little ISO on BozoTheEvilClown

Let's begin with Day 1.

Page 2:
Bozo crawled out of a storm drain into the game, and asked about the "Who Is Online" thing. (Classic scum bozo creating apparent activity by asking about something not relevant to the current game).

Page 9:
Endorsed Damo's suggestion about how the Question Asker should frame their question. Suggested an alternate option for consideration. (We know of course that Brainbomb ignored both of these options).

Page 10:
Continued to discuss the Question Asker, and then went back to more posts about the "Who Is Online" issue from the last game.

Talked about curling.

Page 11:
Continued talking about curling.
Engaged Kgray about the "Who Is Online" issue.

Page 17:
Repeated his suggestion for the Question Asker.
Encouraged the Vig to shoot D1.
Asked Celaph about the Question Asker's strategy.

Page 18:
Acknowledged that a flaw in his plan would be if the Vig shot the Asker D1
Asked me a silly question about my silly remark about repeating myself.

Page 19:
Continues to discuss the Question Asker strategy.

Page 24:
Says he won't be online at EoD. Votes for Durga. Presents no case of his own and has not even mentioned Durga at all before this. His only explanation is to say "I agree with the reasons to suspect Durga", then he plonks down his vote, and leaves. That was his last post of D1.

SUMMARY of BOZO's D1
- Talked a LOT about the Town PRs, especially the Question Asker, and was keen to try to shape the Question Asker's question. Also wanted the Vig to shoot on D1.
- Also talked quite a lot about the "Who Is Online" debate from last time, which I think we can view as mostly filler in retrospect.
- Did not mention Durga AT ALL before plonking his vote on her 3 hours before EoD and leaving. His post with a vote for her on Page 24 was literally the first time he had said her name.

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#1270 Post by dargorygel » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:52 pm

I have had one real experience of being buddied. I am not the kind of player that usually gets that kind of attention. I am also not the kind of player that remembers every electron of activity of past games, and the script of past episodes of “The Mafia Show.”

But kgray buddied me once, unless I am misremembering. It was the game that was memorable to me because vecna actually townread me.

Kgray and vecna are both townreading me, Vecna even telling me such… and kgray defending me lightly.

It might seem backwards arrogant. But I am suspicious this morning about the two of them.

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#1271 Post by dargorygel » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:56 pm

Vecna was correct, I think, in that a time of suspicion on everyone, particularly those on Brain's List, is worthwhile.

My vote on Bona yesterday was movtivated by a) I DID scumread him, and b) a counterwagon was useful. Unfortunately, the counterwagon BECAME the wagon.

But my list this morning now is: from town to scum:
celpah-vecna-kgray-durga

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#1272 Post by dargorygel » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:57 pm

I also think we need to keep our eyes on the rest of the bullpen, too. Yes, statistically the Brain-group is most likely to give good results. But the rest of us are still options.

Today, the Brain group, though.

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#1273 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:59 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:52 pm
I have had one real experience of being buddied. I am not the kind of player that usually gets that kind of attention. I am also not the kind of player that remembers every electron of activity of past games, and the script of past episodes of “The Mafia Show.”

But kgray buddied me once, unless I am misremembering. It was the game that was memorable to me because vecna actually townread me.

Kgray and vecna are both townreading me, Vecna even telling me such… and kgray defending me lightly.

It might seem backwards arrogant. But I am suspicious this morning about the two of them.
Townreading =/= buddying

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#1274 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:00 pm

I'm about to post up the Bozo D2, then I'll look at Celaph's interactions with Bozo because that might be interesting.

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#1275 Post by Vecna » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:02 pm

I actually think the final scum is either you or Rdrivera, darg. Hopefully either of you is vig so we can kill the other.

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#1276 Post by dargorygel » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:06 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:59 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:52 pm
I have had one real experience of being buddied. I am not the kind of player that usually gets that kind of attention. I am also not the kind of player that remembers every electron of activity of past games, and the script of past episodes of “The Mafia Show.”

But kgray buddied me once, unless I am misremembering. It was the game that was memorable to me because vecna actually townread me.

Kgray and vecna are both townreading me, Vecna even telling me such… and kgray defending me lightly.

It might seem backwards arrogant. But I am suspicious this morning about the two of them.
Townreading =/= buddying
Yeah... but townreading without any real reason given... feels like maybe sorta buddying?

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#1277 Post by dargorygel » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:07 pm

Vecna wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:02 pm
I actually think the final scum is either you or Rdrivera, darg. Hopefully either of you is vig so we can kill the other.
lol
And after i post my light suspicion... you move me to your potential scum list. :-)

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#1278 Post by dargorygel » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:08 pm

Celaph distances himself from the Brain list. He diverts it to Jamie-talk (meaning he wanted us to look only at how the brain-folk interact with Jamie.) He finally puts his ordering of the list pretty late in the day. And then he votes outside the list.

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#1279 Post by dargorygel » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:10 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:07 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:02 pm
I actually think the final scum is either you or Rdrivera, darg. Hopefully either of you is vig so we can kill the other.
lol
And after i post my light suspicion... you move me to your potential scum list. :-)
And yes... I realize it was more of a crosspost than a response post. Still made me laugh.

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#1280 Post by dargorygel » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:14 pm

Vecna wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:02 pm
I actually think the final scum is either you or Rdrivera, darg. Hopefully either of you is vig so we can kill the other.
Are you that sure about durga?

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