Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:00 am
last game with him*
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cringe votepyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:52 pmah shit I should get on with this
I have a funny ideaDid you mean irl day or mafia day?BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:53 pmAnyway I'm out for the rest of the day because I'm in a shitty mood and I hate having mafia affect my mood. If you need me just mention my name for questions or comments or whatever.
Either way you're still in the thread, probably because I'm here![]()
I'm afraid I must still banish you though, so I will
##VOTE BesharamSabi
until they don't post for two straight sequential hours as determined by post publishing time :)
Its interesting to me that this post only focusses on Sabi's prowess as town. Wouldnt that also correspond with a somewhat equal prowess as scum, and a certain level of paranoia?Princess Neon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:17 pmI can say beyond a reasonable doubt that it's not performative and that Sabi is very very good at finding town and running with them to attempt to solve the game. I can also say that's exactly how I play lol.President Eden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:19 pmNo it’s not that. I’m having trouble figuring out how to say what I mean without coming off like a condescending asshole. And I’m really trying not to be, though I suspect I’m going to fail. I’m just trying to explain what I see as I see it in a way that can easily be understood, ideally as respectfully and delicately as possible.
But from my perspective, despite Sabi’s claims to the contrary, I don’t actually see a meaningful change in how they approach the game. They seem to have merely learned that townies who talk about “solving slots” and “forming a town core” and “avoiding confirmation bias” are regarded as smart and talented at the game, and have accordingly incorporated those words into their posting, while not actually changing the substance of how they play at all. It’s the same empty “vibes” reasoning, the same endless questions that go nowhere, the same hyperfocus on any post involving them, the same overarching drive less to win and more to be seen as good at the game and get approval from other players. And then there’s this weird condescension thrown on top, like my confusion over the typo was insincere and these odd demands to “work with me.”
It’s just all very performative and is throwing me off. It’s not even necessarily mafia behavior although it obviously could come from mafia. It’s more that everything feels like a simulacrum of solving, stage art to be seen and wondered at and praised, not investigation into a mystery to be solved.
I’m sorry if that comes off as mean, I really don’t mean it to be, but I’m posting on a phone which makes it hard to review and edit a post down to be less harsh. I just don’t know what to do with Sabi’s posting, it all feels so fake but it doesn’t even have to be mafia fake. I’m sure Sabi has gained plenty of experience playing elsewhere and maybe things have changed, but I just am not seeing the outward manifestation of it beyond the liberal use of buzzwords.
*shrugs* or maybe it's just because I've only played with T! Sabi lolVecna wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:02 amIts interesting to me that this post only focusses on Sabi's prowess as town. Wouldnt that also correspond with a somewhat equal prowess as scum, and a certain level of paranoia?Princess Neon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:17 pmI can say beyond a reasonable doubt that it's not performative and that Sabi is very very good at finding town and running with them to attempt to solve the game. I can also say that's exactly how I play lol.President Eden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:19 pmNo it’s not that. I’m having trouble figuring out how to say what I mean without coming off like a condescending asshole. And I’m really trying not to be, though I suspect I’m going to fail. I’m just trying to explain what I see as I see it in a way that can easily be understood, ideally as respectfully and delicately as possible.
But from my perspective, despite Sabi’s claims to the contrary, I don’t actually see a meaningful change in how they approach the game. They seem to have merely learned that townies who talk about “solving slots” and “forming a town core” and “avoiding confirmation bias” are regarded as smart and talented at the game, and have accordingly incorporated those words into their posting, while not actually changing the substance of how they play at all. It’s the same empty “vibes” reasoning, the same endless questions that go nowhere, the same hyperfocus on any post involving them, the same overarching drive less to win and more to be seen as good at the game and get approval from other players. And then there’s this weird condescension thrown on top, like my confusion over the typo was insincere and these odd demands to “work with me.”
It’s just all very performative and is throwing me off. It’s not even necessarily mafia behavior although it obviously could come from mafia. It’s more that everything feels like a simulacrum of solving, stage art to be seen and wondered at and praised, not investigation into a mystery to be solved.
I’m sorry if that comes off as mean, I really don’t mean it to be, but I’m posting on a phone which makes it hard to review and edit a post down to be less harsh. I just don’t know what to do with Sabi’s posting, it all feels so fake but it doesn’t even have to be mafia fake. I’m sure Sabi has gained plenty of experience playing elsewhere and maybe things have changed, but I just am not seeing the outward manifestation of it beyond the liberal use of buzzwords.
This post doesnt even go anywhere near that.
Subtle hits of TMI
=Dcelaph wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:19 pmHereBonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:30 amwhere is celaphJamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:44 amRumi probably town.
Worcej possibly scum.
Chaqa has an alignment.
Bo_Sox, Celaph and Vecna are not here.
celaph wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:22 pmBonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:45 amcelaph is my buddyJamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:33 am
Why are you only asking about Celaph when three people did not post?![]()
That, or you just trying to be nice in a situation Sabi wasnt too happy in are both equally valid possibilities, yes.Princess Neon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:03 am*shrugs* or maybe it's just because I've only played with T! Sabi lolVecna wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:02 amIts interesting to me that this post only focusses on Sabi's prowess as town. Wouldnt that also correspond with a somewhat equal prowess as scum, and a certain level of paranoia?Princess Neon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:17 pm
I can say beyond a reasonable doubt that it's not performative and that Sabi is very very good at finding town and running with them to attempt to solve the game. I can also say that's exactly how I play lol.
This post doesnt even go anywhere near that.
Subtle hits of TMI
apparently sabi and Peon know each other oog, whereas rumi got here through demon. it's somewhat offbeat (emphasis on somewhat) but not at all unexpected for sabi regardless of alignment, for mepyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:35 pmVecna, Bona, Eden, you're three people I would want to read this post
Now that Sabi is gone, this series of posts from them intrigued me:
BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:52 pmNeon is town but I will let yall figure that out but I swear to God if you scare her off I will send you to the shadow relm.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:24 pmHere's neons games
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/34404
Under neon abrigal
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/35368
One is town, one is mafia.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:55 pmRumi if the game isn't begin by fun or affecting you mentally, you can take breaks from it till you feel better. People take breaks all the time. You don't have to camp in the thread all day.I expect Sabi have genuine and strong concern for the new players having a good first experience in webdip mafia.
But it feels like an unbalanced reaction between defending Neon vs. caring about Rumi? It just feels like Sabi is treating the two new webdippees differently.
Rumi feels like an afterthought to keep up appearances![]()
curious that you didn’t acknowledge the other simultaneous mindmeld
ur a nerdVecna wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:55 pmthis is a very long post, but im failing to note any standout points that scream "this could not have been bullshitted together". Mostly simple and surface level observations, that pretty much always count for most players mentioned.
Not saying reads lists on day1 need to be ultra-deep, but this fails to give me townvibes, where a post like this would be such a nice opportunity to do just that.
This whole organic talk is a thing I understand on a persoan level. I can scatterbounce around a casual conversation, and sometimes struggled with engaging in a dialogue that feels organic and not unnatural. For some reason I have no difficulty writing character dialogue though.worcej wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:10 pmLegit question: what do you mean by organically?BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:07 pmBecause I struggle with how to share my thoughts organically. It's a skill issue on my part. Besides that it helps me think about the game differently if I'm asked questions I didn't consider.President Eden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:02 pmGood Lord I was just teasing you there. Chaqa even called it out for what it was right afterward. You have bantzed me harder in this thread, it’s what we do.
But it’s funny you say that, because I still don’t see where you’ve done anything more than that to solve my slot.
I said you, along with four other people, hadn’t done enough to distinguish themselves to my liking at the not yet halfway point of day 1. It’s not on me to play 20 questions with you and sort you ASAP. I spent most of my limited time at game start feeling out the newer players, particularly Rumi, and am pretty happy with where I ended up. I put some pressure on rivera and pushed back on ideas from Byz and Rumi. I have done AMPLE for you to solve my alignment if you want to solve it.
Why do you need people to ask you shit to explain your reads? Can’t you just do it yourself?
Why not just do a read list and just say it as it is - that’s not organic but at least it’s authentic and doesn’t need us to pry.
Okay, this one I have a theory aboutpyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:35 pmI expect Sabi have genuine and strong concern for the new players having a good first experience in webdip mafia.
But it feels like an unbalanced reaction between defending Neon vs. caring about Rumi? It just feels like Sabi is treating the two new webdippees differently.
Rumi feels like an afterthought to keep up appearances![]()
I lowkey suspect that they might be more than just friends nad that there's personal subtext between the two.Princess Neon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:02 pmI actually think you're one of the best players I've ever played with and like your in my top 3 people to play with play style wise. Don't change Sabi your great <3
It feels like some of the back and forth between Eden and Sabi has settled down, I admit I've forgotten the last eight pages of text I read while catching up before I started typing this, but I'm not entirely certain it has and Sabi is still voting for Eden.President Eden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:46 pmI feel I have been very consistent in saying you have not distinguished yourself as town or mafia, but maybe not enough. So I will say it again lol.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:44 pmHe's not memes because eden is an actually one of the best mafia players I know so that's why I'm just annoyed and tunneled on his slot. I don't even think he's omgus-ing me. He genuinely thinks I am not town.Princess Neon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:25 pm
I agree I've been wanting to scum read Eden for this entire interaction and ot worries me because it's so similar to last game and the way I see it the entire pressure on the slot today has been inorganic
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:10 ami already made one u fuk
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:12 amur a nerdVecna wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:55 pmthis is a very long post, but im failing to note any standout points that scream "this could not have been bullshitted together". Mostly simple and surface level observations, that pretty much always count for most players mentioned.
Not saying reads lists on day1 need to be ultra-deep, but this fails to give me townvibes, where a post like this would be such a nice opportunity to do just that.