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rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 5:05 pm

I don't believe much on Damo's claim but it's not worth to kill an un-cced PR claim that will be sorted sooner or later.

My other suspects are Ghug, Demon and HB for the way they pushed Chaqa wagon. Ghug looks scummier to me because it was the exact same way he pushed Chaga on M65 and his overall play looks like that game (someone already pointed this, probably Worcej that was his partner). And I have this fresh on my mind as I caught him but lost to him in milo because of Jamiet. So, ##vote Ghug

Yikes-o, I dont like Rdrivera not considering that Ghug would probably do this both as scum to protect a teammate, or as a town PR to protect another town PR without trying to make it oh too obvious.

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 5:42 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 4:46 pm

Publishing a list of who I could see as kills today:

Celaph
EMC
Foodcoats
ifischl
Macca
Perp

Really up in the air about Rivera and Vecna.

I think you should delete lfischl and Macca from your list

Like, I keep slightly keeling towards ghug/damo both being town, but then shit like this keeps popping up.

Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 4:42 pm

As incomprehensible as it might be, ghug may have helped save Damo by sacrificing Chaqa who would have been an unknown anyway.

Or, they knew Chaqa was town...

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:08 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 4:32 pm

ghug wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 3:50 pm

Why am I not on it?

Because you might be dragonbait. Thought that was obvious. The list of people that I suggest are the only votable people are those that are definitely not dragonbait.

I guess since were openly theorizing about it now.....

This has also been my main gripe with how people approach this day.

Either Damo is JOAT and Ghug is quite probably the cop for the way he saved him D1 and how he's been approaching it.....

Or Ghug indeed just tried to save his scumbuddy Damo D1 and HR had to eat a fat bullet because he was on to him. Lot more extra incentive to kill HR as well because he appeared to know something about Damo in that scenario.

People no longer being interested in Damo suddenly wanting to push Ghug feels really odd to me

Why can't I just be VT who believes his claim and thinks it's bad process to kill him even if you don't?

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:12 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 5:05 pm

I don't believe much on Damo's claim but it's not worth to kill an un-cced PR claim that will be sorted sooner or later.

My other suspects are Ghug, Demon and HB for the way they pushed Chaqa wagon. Ghug looks scummier to me because it was the exact same way he pushed Chaga on M65 and his overall play looks like that game (someone already pointed this, probably Worcej that was his partner). And I have this fresh on my mind as I caught him but lost to him in milo because of Jamiet. So, ##vote Ghug

Yikes-o, I dont like Rdrivera not considering that Ghug would probably do this both as scum to protect a teammate, or as a town PR to protect another town PR without trying to make it oh too obvious.

Do you really believe Ghug as town cop will openly defend Joat Damo this way? This would be so bad town play I don't think Ghug is capable of that.

I can see a scenario where scum Ghug decide to buddy PR Damo or VT Ghug really believes Damo is town, but both being PR is just bullshit.

And Ghug is totally capable of double down defending his scum buddy.

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:08 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 4:32 pm

ghug wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 3:50 pm

Why am I not on it?

Because you might be dragonbait. Thought that was obvious. The list of people that I suggest are the only votable people are those that are definitely not dragonbait.

I guess since were openly theorizing about it now.....

This has also been my main gripe with how people approach this day.

Either Damo is JOAT and Ghug is quite probably the cop for the way he saved him D1 and how he's been approaching it.....

Or Ghug indeed just tried to save his scumbuddy Damo D1 and HR had to eat a fat bullet because he was on to him. Lot more extra incentive to kill HR as well because he appeared to know something about Damo in that scenario.

People no longer being interested in Damo suddenly wanting to push Ghug feels really odd to me

If you want to flip damo instead, I'm entirely game.

I think damo will 100% sort himself out tonight - If he lives, he's scum. If he dies, well...

So, if we accept that we'll not flip damo then I'm onto my 2nd best scum read now, which is currently ghug.

worcej wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:35 pm

I think damo will 100% sort himself out tonight - If he lives, he's scum. If he dies, well...

So, if we accept that we'll not flip damo then I'm onto my 2nd best scum read now, which is currently ghug.

You scumread me because I expressed opinions that you agree with. It's not my fault it takes you longer to figure things out.

ghug wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:37 pm

worcej wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:35 pm

I think damo will 100% sort himself out tonight - If he lives, he's scum. If he dies, well...

So, if we accept that we'll not flip damo then I'm onto my 2nd best scum read now, which is currently ghug.

You scumread me because I expressed opinions that you agree with. It's not my fault it takes you longer to figure things out.

I don't agree with you though - I want damo flipped now.

I'm just optimistic that HR slipped him some poisoned tea.

worcej wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:41 pm

ghug wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:37 pm

worcej wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:35 pm

I think damo will 100% sort himself out tonight - If he lives, he's scum. If he dies, well...

So, if we accept that we'll not flip damo then I'm onto my 2nd best scum read now, which is currently ghug.

You scumread me because I expressed opinions that you agree with. It's not my fault it takes you longer to figure things out.

I don't agree with you though - I want damo flipped now.

Oh, you mean like real life tonight.

Well then you're just wrong and that's not my fault either.

ghug wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:43 pm

worcej wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:41 pm

ghug wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:37 pm

You scumread me because I expressed opinions that you agree with. It's not my fault it takes you longer to figure things out.

I don't agree with you though - I want damo flipped now.

Oh, you mean like real life tonight.

Well then you're just wrong and that's not my fault either.

No, I meant N2 here - I understand the confusion.

And yeah, I probably am wrong, but god damn does this situation strike me as a whole bunch of bullshit.

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:31 pm

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:12 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 5:05 pm

I don't believe much on Damo's claim but it's not worth to kill an un-cced PR claim that will be sorted sooner or later.

My other suspects are Ghug, Demon and HB for the way they pushed Chaqa wagon. Ghug looks scummier to me because it was the exact same way he pushed Chaga on M65 and his overall play looks like that game (someone already pointed this, probably Worcej that was his partner). And I have this fresh on my mind as I caught him but lost to him in milo because of Jamiet. So, ##vote Ghug

Yikes-o, I dont like Rdrivera not considering that Ghug would probably do this both as scum to protect a teammate, or as a town PR to protect another town PR without trying to make it oh too obvious.

Do you really believe Ghug as town cop will openly defend Joat Damo this way? This would be so bad town play I don't think Ghug is capable of that.

I can see a scenario where scum Ghug decide to buddy PR Damo or VT Ghug really believes Damo is town, but both being PR is just bullshit.

And Ghug is totally capable of double down defending his scum buddy.

-IF- damo is joat, then hes gotten away with doing it just fine and he saved him, while scum didnt think he was the cop. He's done it vaguely enough that it almost worked without damo having to claim.

Seemed to work out just fine as either alignment. Him gently pushing the chaqa wagon nearly worked, and if damo wouldnt have had to claim, noone wouldve been the wiser that Ghug knew more about his role.

Him openly defending him today doesnt really matter anymore. So many people voted Damo on D1 that if he is indeed JOAT, unless the cop was openly voting him to hide, the group of people that it could be is pretty shallow.

Blasting some questions in one post:

@Vecna - I like where your thought process is, care to make a vote of some sort?

@food - Same as Vecna, but do you feel more strongly about 'official' over ghug or damo? What order of confidence do you have in them as scum?

@Perp - Am I still your leader? Will you follow me onto damo or ghug?

@HB - how is food more scummy than ghug?

worcej wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:42 pm

I'm just optimistic that HR slipped him some poisoned tea.

When does the person HR poisoned die?

worcej wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:46 pm

ghug wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:43 pm

worcej wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:41 pm

I don't agree with you though - I want damo flipped now.

Oh, you mean like real life tonight.

Well then you're just wrong and that's not my fault either.

No, I meant N2 here - I understand the confusion.

And yeah, I probably am wrong, but god damn does this situation strike me as a whole bunch of bullshit.

I do agree that something stinks. I just think it's entirely possible that scum made it feel that way intentionally so people would think as you do, and my gut, which is usually good on damo, is telling me that he's town.

Now it's entirely possible that my gut is wrong; I'm choosing to not focus on that possiblity because eating crow is just about as unvegetarian as eating Dick's. But even if I am wrong, I'm very confident that the downside is less than the downside if he's town and we do kill him today, and I wish we'd spend less time on it and more time having a normal day, because the people who oppose killing damo are going to be the people who think like I do philosophically on this point, and the people who support killing damo are going to be the people who think like you do philosophically on this point.

lfischl wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:53 pm

worcej wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:42 pm

I'm just optimistic that HR slipped him some poisoned tea.

When does the person HR poisoned die?

If he did hit someone he could kill, then it'll happen in 2 hours.

worcej wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:55 pm

lfischl wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:53 pm

worcej wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:42 pm

I'm just optimistic that HR slipped him some poisoned tea.

When does the person HR poisoned die?

If he did hit someone he could kill, then it'll happen in 2 hours.

Who do you think he could've poisoned

Im not really in the mood to vote just yet. I have some people im somewhat suspicious of, but I wanna observe their shit a bit more.

I can still see some scumteams existing with Damo/Ghug not both being scum, so itd be nice if some of those people outside of that pairing could do their little obvtown ponytrick.

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu May 20, 2021 8:59 pm

Im not really in the mood to vote just yet. I have some people im somewhat suspicious of, but I wanna observe their shit a bit more.

I can still see some scumteams existing with Damo/Ghug not both being scum, so itd be nice if some of those people outside of that pairing could do their little obvtown ponytrick.

What do you think about perp?