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damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:36 am

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:30 am

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:15 am

As celaph was a Bona voter it would suggest Bona's item did not immediately go to a scum member.

what does this mean?

If scum inherited Bona's item they could NK anywhere.

If not their optimal play is to NK on the Bona wagon.

I infer from the fact they NKd on the Bona wagon there is an increased probability they did not immediately inherit Bona's item.

In the grand scheme of things it does not amount to much of a bean hill.

Im surprised by this line of thinking. It slightly hints to a scum mindset to me tbh. What town even thinks along this line?

How are you looking at a NK and attributing this type of thinking lol

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:40 am

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:29 am

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:11 am

The only scum roleblock is JOAT. Would JOAT RB N1???

The other RB is town/3p only.

I WAS ROLEBLOCKED.

Something is rotten.

@ghug your commentary is required asap

More claimed roleblocks on dodgy people. That means at least one of them was done by scum.

So assuming ghug is not lying we cannot both be mafia. At worst 3p + maf (though not as I am town).

Anyway this is important

Ghug and I cannot both be mafia.

"assuming ghug is not lying"

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:40 am

I invite my blocker to claim and explain why.

damo why are you claim fishing?

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:42 am

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:36 am

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:30 am

what does this mean?

If scum inherited Bona's item they could NK anywhere.

If not their optimal play is to NK on the Bona wagon.

I infer from the fact they NKd on the Bona wagon there is an increased probability they did not immediately inherit Bona's item.

In the grand scheme of things it does not amount to much of a bean hill.

Im surprised by this line of thinking. It slightly hints to a scum mindset to me tbh. What town even thinks along this line?

How are you looking at a NK and attributing this type of thinking lol

my thoughts exactly
the only thing that gives me pause is damo is an unusually mechanically focused player to the point where he might actually think other people would do this
but it doesnt sit right

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:40 am

I invite my blocker to claim and explain why.

This is quite a lot of information to unpack in such a simple sentence.

It implies:
-That you inherently think you were blocked by the item as opposed to the hooker. Why?
-That you somehow think its a good idea for an item to claim. Why? Why is it so important to know who was it and why they did it?

Posturing because the RB on this slot is potentially faked?

Confusion abound

Im also making note that Jamiet actually never followed up on, or got annoyed by Snowy repeatedly claiming he was going to answer the -questions-, but then never did.

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:46 am

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:40 am

I invite my blocker to claim and explain why.

This is quite a lot of information to unpack in such a simple sentence.

It implies:
-That you inherently think you were blocked by the item as opposed to the hooker. Why?
-That you somehow think its a good idea for an item to claim. Why? Why is it so important to know who was it and why they did it?

Posturing because the RB on this slot is potentially faked?

Confusion abound

i initially went for the simple and snappy response
but i think it may be worth digging into further
this seemed to be in reference to his previous post saying that he and ghug could not be scum together
for some reason the existence of a pinto beans claim will make that any more certain somehow?
damo presumably does not know who blocked him, and doesnt expect taco bell to claim
so how on earth would pinto beans claiming actually provide any better explanation to his previous post?

currently, i cant see it
i shall continue to try, because this may be important

Obviously hooker wouldn't claim. A claimant would be quasi townclear.

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:57 am

Obviously hooker wouldn't claim. A claimant would be quasi townclear.

how would the roleblock item claiming better explain why you and ghug cannot both be mafia?

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:42 am

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:36 am

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:30 am

what does this mean?

If scum inherited Bona's item they could NK anywhere.

If not their optimal play is to NK on the Bona wagon.

I infer from the fact they NKd on the Bona wagon there is an increased probability they did not immediately inherit Bona's item.

In the grand scheme of things it does not amount to much of a bean hill.

Im surprised by this line of thinking. It slightly hints to a scum mindset to me tbh. What town even thinks along this line?

How are you looking at a NK and attributing this type of thinking lol

When I am town I try and put myself in scum shoes to try and work out what they would do. This is an effective way of scumhunting. I don't see why you find my line of thought surprising.

BobMcBob wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:59 am

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:57 am

Obviously hooker wouldn't claim. A claimant would be quasi townclear.

how would the roleblock item claiming better explain why you and ghug cannot both be mafia?

It doesn't need a claim.

One of the roleblocker is scum so both roleblock targets cannot be scum. Unless ghug is lying. Then it is possible (but in fact is not).

If I was pinto beans blocked they shouldn't claim until after 2nd use.
I missed that bit.

I don't see why shouldn't claim D3 though.

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:00 am

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:42 am

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:36 am

If scum inherited Bona's item they could NK anywhere.

If not their optimal play is to NK on the Bona wagon.

I infer from the fact they NKd on the Bona wagon there is an increased probability they did not immediately inherit Bona's item.

In the grand scheme of things it does not amount to much of a bean hill.

Im surprised by this line of thinking. It slightly hints to a scum mindset to me tbh. What town even thinks along this line?

How are you looking at a NK and attributing this type of thinking lol

When I am town I try and put myself in scum shoes to try and work out what they would do. This is an effective way of scumhunting. I don't see why you find my line of thought surprising.

you see, when i think about the nighkill, im more like "celaph was towny, investigative, relatively active and also an unlikely save target, so a good kill"
here it seems more like
jamie: who shall we kill tonight
bozo: worcej scares me, lets kill him
damo: do you think we should kill on bonas wagon to try and get bonas item as well?
lfischl: sure thing, its worth a shot
jamie: seems irrelevant to me but sure
damo: okay lets kill celpah!
bozo: i still wanna kill worcej...

BobMcBob wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:26 am

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:25 am

BobMcBob wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:24 am

in that case please note that the joat is a weird joat
no roleblock, only vote nullification, half a dentist, gladiator-type effect and mason enabler
and they get a random one each night

Ok. Thanks. Are you JOAT?

no, but i do have the doc permanently open in another tab

Don't talk about the doc

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:28 am

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:10 am

Why do people keep purporting that I am "angry"?

Disagreeing with people, finding them scummy, disliking how they play, etc - these are all simply normal things that happen when we play this crazy old game. I'm not "angry" with Ghug or Bozo or anyone else, and I'm not sure why that's being suggested.

Noone is really suggesting that as their reasons to be scumreading you

I didn't say they were.

Not my point.

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:04 am

BobMcBob wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:59 am

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:57 am

Obviously hooker wouldn't claim. A claimant would be quasi townclear.

how would the roleblock item claiming better explain why you and ghug cannot both be mafia?

It doesn't need a claim.

One of the roleblocker is scum so both roleblock targets cannot be scum. Unless ghug is lying. Then it is possible (but in fact is not).

so why did you say "the person who roleblocked me should claim and explain why"?
what extra certainty does that give?
otherwise surely thered be no reason to ask them to claim?
and why is it in fact not possible ghug is lying?

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:29 am

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:11 am

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:17 pm

The odd thing is, if the Scum also suspected Ghug was 3P, why only roleblock him, and not kill him?

Weird.

The only scum roleblock is JOAT. Would JOAT RB N1???

The other RB is town/3p only.

I WAS ROLEBLOCKED.

Something is rotten.

@ghug your commentary is required asap

More claimed roleblocks on dodgy people. That means at least one of them was done by scum.

Dodgy?

I think Damo looks very town.

okay im gonna go scour the items doc again at some point for clues
may take a while

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:10 am

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:29 am

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:11 am

The only scum roleblock is JOAT. Would JOAT RB N1???

The other RB is town/3p only.

I WAS ROLEBLOCKED.

Something is rotten.

@ghug your commentary is required asap

More claimed roleblocks on dodgy people. That means at least one of them was done by scum.

Dodgy?

I think Damo looks very town.

why do you think that?

BobMcBob wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:34 am

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:10 am

Why do people keep purporting that I am "angry"?

Disagreeing with people, finding them scummy, disliking how they play, etc - these are all simply normal things that happen when we play this crazy old game. I'm not "angry" with Ghug or Bozo or anyone else, and I'm not sure why that's being suggested.

i can find nobody suggesting jamie was angry
i can find me suggesting multiple times that ghug was angry
jamie why do you get the impression people are suggesting you are angry?

You said it!

You said:

BobMcBob wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:07 am

worcej! rdr! vecna! damo!
you have more experience with ghug and jamie than i do
would you say the dynamic between them is unusually exaggerated, or are they normally this angry about next to nothing?
does anything strike you as off about it?

The use of "they" in the plural implies you think we were both angry.

Or have I misunderstood your post?