MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

[Dousing]

In hindsight I should've formatted that one better but what can you do

[Bonatogether]

So @Sweet - Bona is basically saying he thinks your comments about President Eden are sincere; but he has a nagging doubt that it's possible he's wrong and, instead, someone advised you to say what you said.

yeah this

[Bonatogether]

Come to think of it, while he does lie about amogus reads to influence outcomes, I don’t remember him actually doing it in mafia with any regularity

I vaguely recall him claiming to be doing that last game I played, because I remembering making fun of him for it in scum chat

But if he’s offering that as an explanation now then that really doesn’t fit.

this isn't true

he claims this all the time in regular mafia

What is your view of the Chaqa / Damo situation that we have been talking about, young TogetherBone?

prefacing with that i'm bad at catching chaqa

i think you have got him saying contradictory things, but to me this doesn't diverge from his townrange significantly. i think he's more likely to appear buttoned-up on-the-ball as scum because he gets cred that way

[Dousing]

Also sorry Eden,

It'll be based again are I post 97 more times

[Bonatogether]

"Coached" is simple. It suggests that someone is coaching you. That is, that a particular post or comment looks like someone else, more experienced than you, was advising you what you should say - for example by means of the Mafia Chat.

"Based" is a slightly more nuanced concept that these young people use. I think it means "being authentically yourself" without caring too much what others think of you.

Thanks! Looks like I had the right idea then. I wonder if "based" comes from "anchored". That is, it's an expression along the same lines as saying someone is "even keeled", "dependable", "cool-headed", etc.

I'll take coached as a big compliment, thank you :D

idk if it comes from that but it originally comes from weird alt-right communities but now it's just zoomer slang

[Bonatogether]

Damn this is not at all like Town of Salem/the games of Warewolf I played in summer camp

Regardless, this is my list so far (In decreasing order of how much trust I have in them)

Townreads:
1. Me
2. Jamiet - for actually trying to collect info on the game
3. Bozo - Same reason as Jamie

Not sure/mid trust:
4. Eden - I think I'm biased because their explainer post is really stepping my game up
5. KoalaAttack - I explained why before and Bona is discrediting them with sub-par theories imo
6. Snowy - They're gonna be low until they get more active
7. S&C - They seem to be steering the game (I'll explain more below)

Scumreads
8. Bona - I might be putting them too low but I just don't like the ~vibe~ I'm getting from them. I don't know them well enough to make an *accurate* assessment but it seems that their posts are a lot of words but not a lot of substance
9. Chaqa - They are forthcoming on any particular stances at all

There is (frustratingly) little to gleam about rdr and damo from my POV. Anything to say about them comes mostly on the opinions of other people



For my opinion on S&C (because they're the lowest on my list that I haven't given a good explanation for):

I think every theory they've given so far has been rather flaky. They seem to be pushing hard to kill particular people without actually giving ample evidence to back it up.

To give a (bad) example: their shading of Damo makes practically no sense.

cringe readslist makes a townie

[Dousing]

9. Chaqa - They are forthcoming on any particular stances at all

They are *not* forthcoming on any particular stances at all

Typo my b

[snowy801]

"Coached" is simple. It suggests that someone is coaching you. That is, that a particular post or comment looks like someone else, more experienced than you, was advising you what you should say - for example by means of the Mafia Chat.

"Based" is a slightly more nuanced concept that these young people use. I think it means "being authentically yourself" without caring too much what others think of you.

Thanks! Looks like I had the right idea then. I wonder if "based" comes from "anchored". That is, it's an expression along the same lines as saying someone is "even keeled", "dependable", "cool-headed", etc.

I'll take coached as a big compliment, thank you :D

idk if it comes from that but it originally comes from weird alt-right communities but now it's just zoomer slang

iirc it originated from a rapper

It was just co-opted by said alt right communities, but the origin was pretty wholesome

[President Eden]

Do they seem scummy independent of this thought?

I think Bona is scummy, but I have a hard time reading Bona, the only time I townread him he was scum. But this game remembers me that one, with huge walls and a lot of noise and not much content.

Eden I wasn't scumreading but that interaction with Bona and Ghug at night look really weird.

sad that you don't consider my post content

just piggybacking this because you fixed the quotes so I don’t have to

I think Bona’s walls here are a lot better from a signal-to-noise ratio. I know he and I engineered the situation in the previous game as mafia teammates, but everything I said then about writing to persuade was real. In the mafia chat he specifically said that he was going to include as many quotes as possible. That was done with the specific intent to make it tedious to read so most people would just go “tldr Bona big case on Eden, Eden flip scum, Bona town.” A lot of his writing in that wall would have an obnoxiously spaced quote and a drive-by comment of a few words.

Contrast to his post against Koala where he uses a url tag to cite to the message he’s concerned with, and then writes a paragraph analyzing what he thinks is interesting. Just from a formatting perspective it’s much more readable. That’s because (IMO) he actually cares about persuading people to vote Koala, whereas when he was bussing me he mostly cared about appearing to be an early adopter of the Eden wagon so that he wouldn’t look like he was bussing.

[snowy801]

Also sorry Eden,

It'll be based again are I post 97 more times

Am I having a seizure or is Dousing

[President Eden]

"Coached" is simple. It suggests that someone is coaching you. That is, that a particular post or comment looks like someone else, more experienced than you, was advising you what you should say - for example by means of the Mafia Chat.

"Based" is a slightly more nuanced concept that these young people use. I think it means "being authentically yourself" without caring too much what others think of you.

Thanks! Looks like I had the right idea then. I wonder if "based" comes from "anchored". That is, it's an expression along the same lines as saying someone is "even keeled", "dependable", "cool-headed", etc.

I'll take coached as a big compliment, thank you :D

idk if it comes from that but it originally comes from weird alt-right communities but now it's just zoomer slang

Fucking zoomers putting no respect on the name of LILBTHEBASEDGOD

[Dousing]

Damn this is not at all like Town of Salem/the games of Warewolf I played in summer camp

Regardless, this is my list so far (In decreasing order of how much trust I have in them)

Townreads:
1. Me
2. Jamiet - for actually trying to collect info on the game
3. Bozo - Same reason as Jamie

Not sure/mid trust:
4. Eden - I think I'm biased because their explainer post is really stepping my game up
5. KoalaAttack - I explained why before and Bona is discrediting them with sub-par theories imo
6. Snowy - They're gonna be low until they get more active
7. S&C - They seem to be steering the game (I'll explain more below)

Scumreads
8. Bona - I might be putting them too low but I just don't like the ~vibe~ I'm getting from them. I don't know them well enough to make an *accurate* assessment but it seems that their posts are a lot of words but not a lot of substance
9. Chaqa - They are forthcoming on any particular stances at all

There is (frustratingly) little to gleam about rdr and damo from my POV. Anything to say about them comes mostly on the opinions of other people



For my opinion on S&C (because they're the lowest on my list that I haven't given a good explanation for):

I think every theory they've given so far has been rather flaky. They seem to be pushing hard to kill particular people without actually giving ample evidence to back it up.

To give a (bad) example: their shading of Damo makes practically no sense.

cringe readslist makes a townie

I wasn't gonna retaliate because that'd make me petty but then I remembered I'm a PC gamer

##vote bona

[Chaqa]

Ok if you want to move on:

Do you currently have any scumreads? If so, who are you scumreading?

Do you currently have any solid townreads? If so, again, who?

Has your read on anybody other than Damo changed in the past day or so?

As I said in one of my first posts of the night, I have a mild town read on Damo and a mild scum read on Eden. I was townreading Bona, but mostly I think he's hard to read anymore. I wish I could still read him easily.

I'm feeling pretty town vibes from Sweet and Bozo.

Koala is probably an OK vote.

Snowy is also off.

Thanks.

Interesting information. (BTW, yes, I note what you said at night, but it's now halfway into D2 so your views might have evolved, especially as your read on Damo has changed).

I, myself, am a null read for you, yes?

I'm honestly always too distracted laughing at your profile picture to have a real read on you.

[Dousing]

Also sorry Eden,

It'll be based again are I post 97 more times

Am I having a seizure or is Dousing

It's me...

It's supposed to read "I'll be based again after I pose 97 more times" referring to the fact that I had 69 posts and then ruined by posting my list

[snowy801]

Anyone have thoughts on the damo end vote?

[Jamiet99uk]

this isn't true

he claims this all the time in regular mafia

What is your view of the Chaqa / Damo situation that we have been talking about, young TogetherBone?

prefacing with that i'm bad at catching chaqa

i think you have got him saying contradictory things, but to me this doesn't diverge from his townrange significantly. i think he's more likely to appear buttoned-up on-the-ball as scum because he gets cred that way

I am somewhat inclined to agree.

Chaqa gets to live for at least one more hour.

[Jamiet99uk]

Anyone have thoughts on the damo end vote?

Damo has a tendency to make needless endvotes as all three alignments.

[Dousing]

So question: We have 8 townies, 3 mafia so if we MK (which I assume means miskill) this turn we're going to have:
7 Townies
3 Mafia

So if we Miskill today will we have 6 townies, 3 mafia on 3D?

[Chaqa]

9. Chaqa - They are forthcoming on any particular stances at all

They are *not* forthcoming on any particular stances at all

Typo my b

I think that's an interesting read on me. I'm curious why you think that. I feel like my problem is that I'm too forthcoming.

[Jamiet99uk]

cringe readslist makes a townie

I wasn't gonna retaliate because that'd make me petty but then I remembered I'm a PC gamer

##vote bona

You're voting him because he townreads you?