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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:18 pm
by damo666
DemonRHK wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:14 pm
celaph wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:55 pm
DemonRHK wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:50 pm
@celaph: Can you explain your reasoning when you questioned why I wasn't sus of you in place of TFB and damo?
You had made a comment about your intentions behind the post saying that you wanted to get a conversation started and saw Damo as someone under the radar. I want to know why in particular you chose Damo as the person to name who was under the radar. If it's just the fact that he had 4 posts at the time, why not include me while I'm sitting at 8?
Ok, that is a fair question, given the working unknowns.
At this point I am pretty sure said data is horseshit so what the hell.
So I did a drunken lazy internet math last night, going for an average and expecting a pretty normalized curve I took each player's rankng on number of posts, and subtracted their ranking in words per post. I expected a curve from deep negative (High post low content per) to high positive (Low post, high contnt per). It mostly lined up BUT I hit two outliers.
This was based on what I did last night, so it's all very likely much different now. I was hesitant to say anything, because the moment you find a useful tool, and publish a useful tool (If by some unholy miracle I was right and it did mean something), then scum immediately changes the cadence and renders it shit.
Anyway, here's w/e through like 11p EST last night
1 Bonatogether -18
2 BobMcBob -15
3 Donny Dude -10
4 ghug -14
5 TheFlyingBoat 10
6 kgray -2
7 Jamiet99uk -3
8 Durga -12
9 BusinessLamp 6
10 bozotheclown 1
11 Fluminator -3
12 DeathLlama8 0
13 Chaqa 2
14 Foxcastle 8
15 DemonRHK 8
16 rdrivera2005 1
17 celaph 1
18 damo666 -3
19 goldfinger0303 15
20 Hellenic Riot 19
21 Maniac 19
LOL
How is -3 an outlier here?
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:19 pm
by Durga
kgray wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:15 pm
I don't like that Rivera is still on no-kill especially after finding reasons to agree with multiple people's scumreads (especially the flum one is bothering me).
I feel like town!Chaqa would care more. He apparently hated the boatman wagon but has done nothing to counter it and I don't know who he actually scumreads, if anyone.
HR not commenting on the boatman wagon that he started but hinting he'd move to Donny is kind of yucky.
Good point on rdr - he said something about doing it because not having caught up but then he hasn't changed it and he engaged a fair amount.
HR has come in pretty aggressively, which doesn't seem particularly scummy to me
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:20 pm
by Jamiet99uk
DemonRHK wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:14 pm
Ok, that is a fair question, given the working unknowns.
At this point I am pretty sure said data is horseshit so what the hell.
So I did a drunken lazy internet math last night, going for an average and expecting a pretty normalized curve I took each player's rankng on number of posts, and subtracted their ranking in words per post. I expected a curve from deep negative (High post low content per) to high positive (Low post, high contnt per). It mostly lined up BUT I hit two outliers.
This was based on what I did last night, so it's all very likely much different now. I was hesitant to say anything, because the moment you find a useful tool, and publish a useful tool (If by some unholy miracle I was right and it did mean something), then scum immediately changes the cadence and renders it shit.
Anyway, here's w/e through like 11p EST last night
<snip list>
What was the point of this?
Why did you decide to do it; what did you hope to learn?
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:20 pm
by DemonRHK
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:18 pm
How is -3 an outlier here?
18th in post count, dead last in words per. Every player under you is over 10 and it's 7 places lower than the next negative.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:20 pm
by TheFlyingBoat
Durga wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:09 pm
i feel like lately I'm getting scumread as town a lot and townread as scum. anyway we're not killing me so move on
This is so far from a townie response from anyone besides Durga, but because it's Durga I just love it
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:21 pm
by Durga
kgray wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:18 pm
Durga wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:12 pm
i think damo and tfb are good choices for today. tbh i can never really read damo but he hasn't done his usual math bs yet and keeps asserting that flum needs to die and i can't follow any reasoning behind why.
tfb feels more reactive than usual. something about him following jamie on his bizarre logic is irking me - like sure jamie is right but that doesn't make flum scummy and i expect tfb to get that
What math should damo be doing D1 of a pretty vanilla game? Asserting people need to die without stating clear reasons is peak damo.
The more I think about the Flum thing the more weird his floundering reaction to that pressure seems.
Fair, I just expect some "Flum is 76% scum!" and me ripping my hair out attempting to understand why
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:21 pm
by Jamiet99uk
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:18 pm
DemonRHK wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:14 pm
Anyway, here's w/e through like 11p EST last night
1 Bonatogether -18
2 BobMcBob -15
3 Donny Dude -10
4 ghug -14
5 TheFlyingBoat 10
6 kgray -2
7 Jamiet99uk -3
8 Durga -12
9 BusinessLamp 6
10 bozotheclown 1
11 Fluminator -3
12 DeathLlama8 0
13 Chaqa 2
14 Foxcastle 8
15 DemonRHK 8
16 rdrivera2005 1
17 celaph 1
18 damo666 -3
19 goldfinger0303 15
20 Hellenic Riot 19
21 Maniac 19
LOL
How is -3 an outlier here?
Actually Damo makes a very valid point here too.
-3 is not an outlier in this exercise.
The list ranges from -18 to +19. So at -3 Damo is roughly in the middle of the range, the very opposite of an outlier. Bona, Bob, HR and Maniac are the outliers.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:22 pm
by Durga
Hold up kgray you're shading rdr for no kill but you dont even have a vote placed?
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:22 pm
by DemonRHK
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:20 pm
What was the point of this?
Why did you decide to do it; what did you hope to learn?
I work off stats and numbers. Y'all fuckin know I can't read a person for shit. It's why I'm awful early and mostly good for 1 scum mid game.
Again, I was looking for an outlier. Damo was super low activity and the worst in contib per post.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:22 pm
by Durga
Oh god the math has started
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:22 pm
by Jamiet99uk
DemonRHK wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:20 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:18 pm
How is -3 an outlier here?
18th in post count, dead last in words per. Every player under you is over 10 and it's 7 places lower than the next negative.
Yes but he's not an outlier in terms of the numbers that you produced as a result of your exercise.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:23 pm
by Fluminator
DemonRHK wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:22 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:20 pm
What was the point of this?
Why did you decide to do it; what did you hope to learn?
I work off stats and numbers. Y'all fuckin know I can't read a person for shit. It's why I'm awful early and mostly good for 1 scum mid game.
Again, I was looking for an outlier. Damo was super low activity and the worst in contib per post.
Is a high or low number what you want?
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:24 pm
by Hellenic Riot
kgray wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:15 pm
I don't like that Rivera is still on no-kill especially after finding reasons to agree with multiple people's scumreads (especially the flum one is bothering me).
I feel like town!Chaqa would care more. He apparently hated the boatman wagon but has done nothing to counter it and I don't know who he actually scumreads, if anyone.
HR not commenting on the boatman wagon that he started but hinting he'd move to Donny is kind of yucky.
What comment are you expecting? "Omg people agree with me woop woop woop?" I had a read. People agreed with the read. Some of them followed the vote. I am perfectly content to read other people whilst pressure sits on this wagon.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:24 pm
by DemonRHK
Durga wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:22 pm
Oh god the math has started
You wanted me to expand, sorry the monkey's paw curled on you.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:24 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Durga wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:16 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:14 pm
Durga wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:12 pm
i think damo and tfb are good choices for today. tbh i can never really read damo but he hasn't done his usual math bs yet and keeps asserting that flum needs to die and i can't follow any reasoning behind why.
tfb feels more reactive than usual. something about him following jamie on his bizarre logic is irking me - like sure jamie is right but that doesn't make flum scummy and i expect tfb to get that
What is bizarre about my logic?
You've played enough games with Flum to know that he would do something like this as either alignment
What, make up a lie about having a town tell, and then double down when questioned, only to later completely change his claim and say he was only joking all along?
No, sorry, I'm not sure I agree with you.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:25 pm
by TheFlyingBoat
Durga wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:12 pm
i think damo and tfb are good choices for today. tbh i can never really read damo but he hasn't done his usual math bs yet and keeps asserting that flum needs to die and i can't follow any reasoning behind why.
tfb feels more reactive than usual. something about him following jamie on his bizarre logic is irking me - like sure jamie is right but that doesn't make flum scummy and i expect tfb to get that
It's D1 and damo hasn't said anything and I've made it clear it's not just Flum lying about the trust tell. It's his entire behavior throughout the entire process that just reeks of anti town nonsense.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:25 pm
by Durga
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:24 pm
Durga wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:16 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:14 pm
What is bizarre about my logic?
You've played enough games with Flum to know that he would do something like this as either alignment
What, make up a lie about having a town tell, and then double down when questioned, only to later completely change his claim and say he was only joking all along?
No, sorry, I'm not sure I agree with you.
Wait this situation seems reaally familiar.....
it reminds me of the time Chaqa made that stupid crumb and Eden went ham on him for it
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:26 pm
by DemonRHK
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:22 pm
DemonRHK wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:20 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:18 pm
How is -3 an outlier here?
18th in post count, dead last in words per. Every player under you is over 10 and it's 7 places lower than the next negative.
Yes but he's not an outlier in terms of the numbers that you produced as a result of your exercise.
It's a deviation from the surrounding placement. Everyone else it at least a hair better in contrib per post.
You're defending that damo has had relevant participation in the first hlaf of the phase? Even gold with kaboomed plumbing was better.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:27 pm
by kgray
Durga wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:22 pm
Hold up kgray you're shading rdr for no kill but you dont even have a vote placed?
looool
yeah but at least I voted for some of my scumreads before
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:28 pm
by TheFlyingBoat
kgray wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:18 pm
Durga wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:12 pm
i think damo and tfb are good choices for today. tbh i can never really read damo but he hasn't done his usual math bs yet and keeps asserting that flum needs to die and i can't follow any reasoning behind why.
tfb feels more reactive than usual. something about him following jamie on his bizarre logic is irking me - like sure jamie is right but that doesn't make flum scummy and i expect tfb to get that
What math should damo be doing D1 of a pretty vanilla game? Asserting people need to die without stating clear reasons is peak damo.
The more I think about the Flum thing the more weird his floundering reaction to that pressure seems.
Oh rip I got sniped while i was temporarily distracted by Demon's weird math