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Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:26 pm
by Chaqa
Ghug and Snowy looking like the most likely scum based on what we know.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:27 pm
by TheFlyingBoat
President Eden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:15 pm
Rivera seems quite unlikely to be mafia for the same reason lfischl was.
So does Doom.
snowy could be mafia for tying it, I suppose, but post-CC for worcej, I can’t imagine mafia being on Tom if not to tie it.
Given what others say about rdr laying low and bussing bad mafia what makes you rule out rdr? I'm not familiar with his meta, so I'm genuinely asking for more info here
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:28 pm
by Chaqa
I don't particularly think RDR is mafia
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:28 pm
by Chaqa
He could be, but I'm more eying snowy and ghug as the next two flips.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:29 pm
by Durga
Chaqa wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:25 pm
Bozo and Tom both wound up on worcej Day 1 instead of jasnah.
Reinforces my belief that jasnah was scum.
Imagine being scum and trying to save a worthless towny for a miskill later? Chaqa couldn't.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:30 pm
by Durga
Rdr still has given me 0 town vibes. Vecna hella sus. I still don't like ghug, in fact I might like him less now.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:30 pm
by President Eden
Oracle should 100% target jasnah until a better target presents itself:
- jasnah is literally the only person who could still be Cop besides Chaqa, so while there's no serious doubt on that anymore, revealing jasnah confirms it completely
- jasnah is also literally the only person who could still be Miller besides BunnyGo, so while there's also no serious doubt there either, revealing her confirms that completely as well
- If Chaqa is Cop, jasnah and Jamie must be opposite alignments, or we would have won, so revealing jasnah also reveals Jamie
Hard to imagine there will be a better target there tbh. We either save the game from an amazing Chaqa or BunnyGo gambit, or we confirm the alignments of 4 people.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:32 pm
by President Eden
TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:27 pm
President Eden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:15 pm
Rivera seems quite unlikely to be mafia for the same reason lfischl was.
So does Doom.
snowy could be mafia for tying it, I suppose, but post-CC for worcej, I can’t imagine mafia being on Tom if not to tie it.
Given what others say about rdr laying low and bussing bad mafia what makes you rule out rdr? I'm not familiar with his meta, so I'm genuinely asking for more info here
Well for starters Tom is not bad mafia.
But more importantly, wouldn't it be a bit bizarre for him to spend most of the game attacking his teammate and pushing no other suspects to the same degree?
I guess a similar thing applies to Jamie and bozo, but both their arguments about the other felt off to me in a way that rivera's doesn't. I will need to review them though as it's possible this is a good reason to think Jamie was town.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:33 pm
by President Eden
President Eden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:30 pm
Oracle should 100% target jasnah until a better target presents itself:
- jasnah is literally the only person who could still be Cop besides Chaqa, so while there's no serious doubt on that anymore, revealing jasnah confirms it completely
- jasnah is also literally the only person who could still be Miller besides BunnyGo, so while there's also no serious doubt there either, revealing her confirms that completely as well
- If Chaqa is Cop, jasnah and Jamie must be opposite alignments, or we would have won, so revealing jasnah also reveals Jamie
Hard to imagine there will be a better target there tbh. We either save the game from an amazing Chaqa or BunnyGo gambit, or we confirm the alignments of 4 people.
This isn't quite right, jasnah and Jamie could be town. If jasnah is revealed to be mafia then Jamie must be town, but if jasnah is town Jamie still could be.
Weakens the argument somewhat as the main benefit by far is settling jasnah and Jamie in one swoop, which this doesn't do.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:33 pm
by worcej
President Eden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:21 pm
Well I was gonna deep dive it, but I'm hungry and Stefan released a Traditions analysis video for 3.1 so. Maybe later.
I wish I had more free time to play with you...
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:34 pm
by Chaqa
Durga wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:29 pm
Chaqa wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:25 pm
Bozo and Tom both wound up on worcej Day 1 instead of jasnah.
Reinforces my belief that jasnah was scum.
Imagine being scum and trying to save a worthless towny for a miskill later? Chaqa couldn't.
As scum all i care about is not losing a teammate Day 1.
Really getting a miskill every day.
Two scum independently avoiding an easy miskill wagon is probably indicative of something.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:35 pm
by Chaqa
President Eden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:30 pm
Oracle should 100% target jasnah until a better target presents itself:
- jasnah is literally the only person who could still be Cop besides Chaqa, so while there's no serious doubt on that anymore, revealing jasnah confirms it completely
- jasnah is also literally the only person who could still be Miller besides BunnyGo, so while there's also no serious doubt there either, revealing her confirms that completely as well
- If Chaqa is Cop, jasnah and Jamie must be opposite alignments, or we would have won, so revealing jasnah also reveals Jamie
Hard to imagine there will be a better target there tbh. We either save the game from an amazing Chaqa or BunnyGo gambit, or we confirm the alignments of 4 people.
Jasnah and Jamie could both be town, so the third point is slightly wrong.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:36 pm
by Durga
Chaqa wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:34 pm
Durga wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:29 pm
Chaqa wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:25 pm
Bozo and Tom both wound up on worcej Day 1 instead of jasnah.
Reinforces my belief that jasnah was scum.
Imagine being scum and trying to save a worthless towny for a miskill later? Chaqa couldn't.
As scum all i care about is not losing a teammate Day 1.
Really getting a miskill every day.
Two scum independently avoiding an easy miskill wagon is probably indicative of something.
If it was town v town vs jasnah and worcej who do you think scum would prefer?
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:37 pm
by worcej
Vecna wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:31 pm
to counter or add to my points; if indeed scum, he must be scum with a strong-willed player, because I do not think he would ever stand for the choices scum have made this game.
Eden or snowy takes that cake imho
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:44 pm
by President Eden
rivera and Doom were also voting Tom - and hell, Doom was endvoting Tom - on d3 when bozo got sent.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:45 pm
by ghug
Durga wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:57 pm
snowy801 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:47 pm
BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:45 pm
The vechug ship is here folks.
Surely it's ghugna
I wouldn't play so stupid
This is a fascinating response to a joke about shipping me and Vecna.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:45 pm
by BunnyGo
Vecna wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:31 pm
to counter or add to my points; if indeed scum, he must be scum with a strong-willed player, because I do not think he would ever stand for the choices scum have made this game.
Aka tom?
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:46 pm
by ghug
Durga wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:30 pm
Rdr still has given me 0 town vibes. Vecna hella sus. I still don't like ghug, in fact I might like him less now.
Why?
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:47 pm
by ghug
President Eden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:30 pm
Oracle should 100% target jasnah until a better target presents itself:
- jasnah is literally the only person who could still be Cop besides Chaqa, so while there's no serious doubt on that anymore, revealing jasnah confirms it completely
- jasnah is also literally the only person who could still be Miller besides BunnyGo, so while there's also no serious doubt there either, revealing her confirms that completely as well
- If Chaqa is Cop, jasnah and Jamie must be opposite alignments, or we would have won, so revealing jasnah also reveals Jamie
Hard to imagine there will be a better target there tbh. We either save the game from an amazing Chaqa or BunnyGo gambit, or we confirm the alignments of 4 people.
I don't see why jasnah cop is more likely than lfischl cop.
Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:48 pm
by Durga
ghug wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:46 pm
Durga wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:30 pm
Rdr still has given me 0 town vibes. Vecna hella sus. I still don't like ghug, in fact I might like him less now.
Why?
There was a point where y'all were talking to each other and I distinctly remember being like "I don't like this convo" but I'd need to go back and look