M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#101 Post by TrPrado » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:37 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:35 pm
I challenge bo to be first to claim
Why?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#102 Post by bo_sox48 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:38 pm

I just realized I'm watching Hell's Kitchen and I'm literally turning British

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#103 Post by bo_sox48 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:39 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:37 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:33 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:32 pm


##Vote bo_sox
Thanks for making this game so bloody easy.

##VOTE damo
I like damo's vote better.

##VOTE bo_sox
I thought we were going to leave how dumb you can be in the past

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#104 Post by damo666 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:39 pm

bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:36 pm
I don't give a shit
What kind of attitude is this? Lynch bo.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#105 Post by xorxes » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:40 pm

TrPrado wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:30 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:27 pm
TrPrado wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:23 pm


But one scum wouldn't have been in the lynch pool. There are multiple roles where scum are capable of sneaking out of the lynch pool.
What were the fake roles?
Oh, didn't realize they weren't posted. We had anti-encryptor (non-confirmable), friendly neighbor (fakeable), lover (confirming would be against town win condition), and innocent child.
The only way to fake friendly neighbour is to implicate two scum in the process. Once one of them is caught, so is the other. Inno child was unclaimable. Anti-encryptor would probably be one of the first lynch coices, and if someone refused to claim on the grounds that they were the lover, they would also be lynched, so I don't see how you all were comfortable with that. Who would have confirmed the FN?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#106 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:41 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:32 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:26 pm
What do you think of trying some variant of Kalel's idea? I suggest we agree that the vote leader after 24 hours should claim his role or get lynched for refusing to do so.
I think the only benefit with this claiming plan is to catch a 3P. Scum can hide (until if/when their fake role can be claimed) if they are leading and thus we move to a mislynch.

I think it risks exposure for a non-game advancing catch.
If the scum claims a verifiable role, we would make them confirm it. If the scum claims a non-verifiable role, we would not necessarily avoid lynching them. It is the same thing that would happen at EOD, but it gives us more time to react.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#107 Post by damo666 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:41 pm

TrPrado wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:37 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:35 pm
I challenge bo to be first to claim
Why?
Because I want to pressurise him because of his 'that's my two' post [paraphrasing]

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#108 Post by worcej » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:41 pm

Kitsune wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:37 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:32 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:26 pm
What do you think of trying some variant of Kalel's idea? I suggest we agree that the vote leader after 24 hours should claim his role or get lynched for refusing to do so.
I think the only benefit with this claiming plan is to catch a 3P. Scum can hide (until if/when their fake role can be claimed) if they are leading and thus we move to a mislynch.

I think it risks exposure for a non-game advancing catch.
It's not as good as lynching mafia-scum, but I don't see a downside on lynching 3P and keeping town alive.

Lynching NK Tanner is neutral. Lynching Arsonist before they can douse half the town in petrol is a remarkably good idea. Ditto the infector, although infection is less immediately lethal.
Far, but that requires a 3P to be in the crosshairs, which is unlikely.

The most likely outcome is you'll just expose a town player to the scum team to narrow down the pool of candidates for the 'important' roles, thus making their job easier.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#109 Post by worcej » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:42 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:41 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:32 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:26 pm
What do you think of trying some variant of Kalel's idea? I suggest we agree that the vote leader after 24 hours should claim his role or get lynched for refusing to do so.
I think the only benefit with this claiming plan is to catch a 3P. Scum can hide (until if/when their fake role can be claimed) if they are leading and thus we move to a mislynch.

I think it risks exposure for a non-game advancing catch.
If the scum claims a verifiable role, we would make them confirm it. If the scum claims a non-verifiable role, we would not necessarily avoid lynching them. It is the same thing that would happen at EOD, but it gives us more time to react.
There is a lot of shit that can happen on D1 without any claims being issued. Why not start there instead of pushing for claims?

IMO, the mass claim helps the scum the most, then town, followed by 3P players.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#110 Post by KalelChase » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:44 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:39 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:36 pm
I don't give a shit
What kind of attitude is this? Lynch bo.
Damo, just on attitude? Not that I'm completely against that, but what else you got?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#111 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:46 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:41 pm
Kitsune wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:37 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:32 pm
I think the only benefit with this claiming plan is to catch a 3P. Scum can hide (until if/when their fake role can be claimed) if they are leading and thus we move to a mislynch.

I think it risks exposure for a non-game advancing catch.
It's not as good as lynching mafia-scum, but I don't see a downside on lynching 3P and keeping town alive.

Lynching NK Tanner is neutral. Lynching Arsonist before they can douse half the town in petrol is a remarkably good idea. Ditto the infector, although infection is less immediately lethal.
Far, but that requires a 3P to be in the crosshairs, which is unlikely.

The most likely outcome is you'll just expose a town player to the scum team to narrow down the pool of candidates for the 'important' roles, thus making their job easier.
I am suggesting we accelerate the day, if we don't, the town player would still have to claim his role at EOD, giving that information to the mafia, and most likely another town player would get lynched.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#112 Post by damo666 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:47 pm

KalelChase wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:44 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:39 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:36 pm
I don't give a shit
What kind of attitude is this? Lynch bo.
Damo, just on attitude? Not that I'm completely against that, but what else you got?
Yep just attitude.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#113 Post by damo666 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:49 pm

Look at my post count in my last post

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#114 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:49 pm

bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:39 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:37 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:33 pm


Thanks for making this game so bloody easy.

##VOTE damo
I like damo's vote better.

##VOTE bo_sox
I thought we were going to leave how dumb you can be in the past
Mass claiming is being discussed, Kalel suggested another idea, and I suggested a modification of Kalel' s idea. Instead of participating in any of these discussions, you implied that you were not going to contribute to day 1.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#115 Post by damo666 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:49 pm

Damn. It update all posts but I'm sure you can work it out.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#116 Post by worcej » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:50 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:46 pm
I am suggesting we accelerate the day, if we don't, the town player would still have to claim his role at EOD, giving that information to the mafia, and most likely another town player would get lynched.
How would you accelerate the day? Hammer it?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#117 Post by worcej » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:51 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:49 pm
Look at my post count in my last post
Now just work on the word count/post and we'll be getting to some awesome participation!

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#118 Post by bo_sox48 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:51 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:49 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:39 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:37 pm


I like damo's vote better.

##VOTE bo_sox
I thought we were going to leave how dumb you can be in the past
Mass claiming is being discussed, Kalel suggested another idea, and I suggested a modification of Kalel' s idea. Instead of participating in any of these discussions, you implied that you were not going to contribute to day 1.
No, I reaction tested and damo waltzed right in.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#119 Post by bo_sox48 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:53 pm

bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:51 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:49 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:39 pm


I thought we were going to leave how dumb you can be in the past
Mass claiming is being discussed, Kalel suggested another idea, and I suggested a modification of Kalel' s idea. Instead of participating in any of these discussions, you implied that you were not going to contribute to day 1.
No, I reaction tested and damo waltzed right in.
To your point, though, I have no interest in a massclaim discussion. You can find a quote from past games if you want to know why it's a stupid idea that I will never participate in on day 1.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#120 Post by bo_sox48 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:56 pm

To be even more vague, I don't really care about the mechanics of this game at all. Thinking in mathematical and strictly logical terms is not the best way for me to gather reads and draw conclusions. If it's best for you, wonderful. Have at it.

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