MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[Bonatogether]

ok im caught up

agree with neon celaph deserves a side eye but i don't think voting him is a solid idea atm. he will be very clearly town or scum soon anyways because.

the pyx had one solid post but his votes have been trash so far.

So we keep the potential scum alive now because they might probably make themself obvious later?

I don't understand this play but I will acquiesce to it I don't know where else to vote atm though.

everyone is potential scum. celaph will be clearer in the immediate future, so i'm a fan of just letting that be on the back burner.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Worcej: Can you recall a game, in the last 2-3 years, where you and I have both been town, and where you have correctly townread me on D1?

My bet is that the answer is no but I'd love to be wrong.

My theory is that you are really bad at reading me. My general recollection is that you always scumread me, and always attack me, in the early days of every game we play together, irrespective of what alignment I actually turn out to be.

If my theory is correct, perhaps you'd like to comment on why you are so bad at reading me. If my theory is wrong, then please disprove it.

Yes, most games honestly. I usually legitimately scum read you in the later phases of a game primarily because you show no hesitation when you get things wrong and continue to just barrel ahead onto the next read/opinion.

What should I do in that scenario?

Sit in the corner and cry?

Refuse to take any further part in the game?

Or keep trying?

What do you do when you get things wrong?

[Jamiet99uk]

How could you simultaneously accuse me of being scum because of voting for "low posters" whilst at the same time apparently thinking my vote was parked on President Eden the whole time?

It's unpossible for both those things to be correct.

ISO skimming is more of an art than a science.

Are you gonna be on on Friday? I've had mixed pings from you, but I feel like I could solve your slot with an hour or two of real time onteraction

I'm here now.

[Jamiet99uk]

lol, ofcourse

fuckers

What?

[Rumi Tobari]

@Worcej: Can you recall a game, in the last 2-3 years, where you and I have both been town, and where you have correctly townread me on D1?

My bet is that the answer is no but I'd love to be wrong.

My theory is that you are really bad at reading me. My general recollection is that you always scumread me, and always attack me, in the early days of every game we play together, irrespective of what alignment I actually turn out to be.

If my theory is correct, perhaps you'd like to comment on why you are so bad at reading me. If my theory is wrong, then please disprove it.

Yes, most games honestly. I usually legitimately scum read you in the later phases of a game primarily because you show no hesitation when you get things wrong and continue to just barrel ahead onto the next read/opinion.

What should I do in that scenario?

Sit in the corner and cry?

Refuse to take any further part in the game?

Or keep trying?

What do you do when you get things wrong?

That's kind of how I'd react. I'd atmit I was wrong. Apologize a ton, and feel really guilty about being wrong.

[Bonatogether]

@Bona:
@Ghug:

Given Bo_Sox has now participated, why are you still voting for him? You have been active since Bo_Sox arrived, but you have not changed your votes. Why do you scumread Bo?

##unvote
wee tied wagons

[Rumi Tobari]

I have a question. Since ending a day on an unvote isn't legal in this game, what happens to people who end a game without a legal vote?

[Bonatogether]

ok im caught up

agree with neon celaph deserves a side eye but i don't think voting him is a solid idea atm. he will be very clearly town or scum soon anyways because.

the pyx had one solid post but his votes have been trash so far.

So we keep the potential scum alive now because they might probably make themself obvious later?

I don't understand this play but I will acquiesce to it I don't know where else to vote atm though.

For context, in my ~4 games as scum I've effectively obvscummed by D2 every game.

celaph kgray scumteam

[BesharamSabi]

Everyone unvoting should vote damo because wagonomics because fun because damo is scum

[Bonatogether]

I like Jaime pestering me and others about his own wagon, a scum is more likely to just say "oh, fair enough, but you're wrong" Usually. Depends on meta.

Still see my original reasons to vote as good ones. Jamie doesn't seem super interested in original scumhunting. Which I'm just gonna be less forgiving of if there's a lot of noise in the thread. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you bandwagon voted Eden and then just parked there all day, right?

You are wrong. So far today I have at various times voted for Damo, Eden, Bo_Sox and then Eden again.

Not only are you wrong, but, more worryingly, your accusations against me have changed in a totally inconsistent manner.

Originally you accused me of, quote: "Blindly voting lowposters".

Now you are (incorrectly) asserting that I "Bandwagon voted Eden and just parked there all day"

These two statements are directly in conflict.

Eden is not a "low poster". Eden has been very active all day. He is the second-highest poster in the entire game.

How can you assert that I was only voting low-posters if you simultaneously thought I had my vote parked on Eden all day?

I can only conclude at this time that your push on me is fake and you wrongly believe me to be an easy mis-kill. I deduce that you are SCUM.

##Vote Byz

##vote Byz

choo choo

[Chaqa]

I have a question. Since ending a day on an unvote isn't legal in this game, what happens to people who end a game without a legal vote?

Maybe a warning, but eventually replacement or modkill.

[BesharamSabi]

Bona plz

[Rumi Tobari]

Everyone unvoting should vote damo because wagonomics because fun because damo is scum

While I can recognie the existence of the reasonings that make people suspect him to be scum (and had to be explained why these mean he might be scum), is there a reason to vote for Damo right now over someone else who might be scum?

And is there anyone else that opinions are leaning strongly towards being scum. I have trouble interpreting cues socially like this. THat's why I've been posting and engaging less, I've been realizing that I don't understand what I'm doing at all nor do I have the social perception to read into anything.

I'm kind of a burden to town. I'll take the vote off as a burden if it helps the game continue with people who actually know what they're doing and how to accurately identify people as scum.

[BesharamSabi]

Everyone unvoting should vote damo because wagonomics because fun because damo is scum

While I can recognie the existence of the reasonings that make people suspect him to be scum (and had to be explained why these mean he might be scum), is there a reason to vote for Damo right now over someone else who might be scum?

And is there anyone else that opinions are leaning strongly towards being scum. I have trouble interpreting cues socially like this. THat's why I've been posting and engaging less, I've been realizing that I don't understand what I'm doing at all nor do I have the social perception to read into anything.

I'm kind of a burden to town. I'll take the vote off as a burden if it helps the game continue with people who actually know what they're doing and how to accurately identify people as scum.

You can change your vote if you find someone scummier. You just have to trust your gut at this point. Or your mind.

OK so who do you feel like haven't been trying to figure out people's alignment or attempted to solve the game?

Just give me names or whatever. There's no right or wrong answer at this point. I just want your opinion.

[Rumi Tobari]

Everyone unvoting should vote damo because wagonomics because fun because damo is scum

While I can recognie the existence of the reasonings that make people suspect him to be scum (and had to be explained why these mean he might be scum), is there a reason to vote for Damo right now over someone else who might be scum?

And is there anyone else that opinions are leaning strongly towards being scum. I have trouble interpreting cues socially like this. THat's why I've been posting and engaging less, I've been realizing that I don't understand what I'm doing at all nor do I have the social perception to read into anything.

I'm kind of a burden to town. I'll take the vote off as a burden if it helps the game continue with people who actually know what they're doing and how to accurately identify people as scum.

You can change your vote if you find someone scummier. You just have to trust your gut at this point. Or your mind.

OK so who do you feel like haven't been trying to figure out people's alignment or attempted to solve the game?

Just give me names or whatever. There's no right or wrong answer at this point. I just want your opinion.

Can you tell me how I can do that thing in the bot where I cna look at all of someone's posts at once? Eden put up a link for Damo earlier but I don't know how to do it for anyone else.

[dargorygel]

Quick post
Celaph feels ok to me. He reads like someone trying to help. It might be fake, but it doesn't seem like it after my iso.
Folk aren't interested in pyxie atm.
I also iso'd damo. I see sabi's point. I also see damo auditioning for webdip mafia stand up comic. Maybe he just doesn't see anything to dug into. But...
##vote damo

[BesharamSabi]

While I can recognie the existence of the reasonings that make people suspect him to be scum (and had to be explained why these mean he might be scum), is there a reason to vote for Damo right now over someone else who might be scum?

And is there anyone else that opinions are leaning strongly towards being scum. I have trouble interpreting cues socially like this. THat's why I've been posting and engaging less, I've been realizing that I don't understand what I'm doing at all nor do I have the social perception to read into anything.

I'm kind of a burden to town. I'll take the vote off as a burden if it helps the game continue with people who actually know what they're doing and how to accurately identify people as scum.

You can change your vote if you find someone scummier. You just have to trust your gut at this point. Or your mind.

OK so who do you feel like haven't been trying to figure out people's alignment or attempted to solve the game?

Just give me names or whatever. There's no right or wrong answer at this point. I just want your opinion.

Can you tell me how I can do that thing in the bot where I cna look at all of someone's posts at once? Eden put up a link for Damo earlier but I don't know how to do it for anyone else.

So if you go to the post count table. Just click the names and it pulls it up

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/stats?g=75&phase=global

[BesharamSabi]

We should start consolidating these vanity wagons in the next few hours. They are useless votes.

[Rumi Tobari]

Quick post
Celaph feels ok to me. He reads like someone trying to help. It might be fake, but it doesn't seem like it after my iso.
Folk aren't interested in pyxie atm.
I also iso'd damo. I see sabi's point. I also see damo auditioning for webdip mafia stand up comic. Maybe he just doesn't see anything to dug into. But...
##vote damo

This is going to sound silly, but I'm actually more inclined to trust the people who are suspicious of me vs the people who townread me. So I lowkey kind of want to trust Chaqa, I'd feel inclined to trust Bo more if Bo had been active enough to give me more of an impression as a person.

The people who I'm most suspicious of are honestly Damo (for the reasons stated earlier), and Pyx who did not feel like he was attempting to solve anything. At the same Bo similarly does not feel very participatey, kind of just here?

Celaph's questions feel more relevent and on topic, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I have no really strong opinions on others at this time.

[dargorygel]

Quick post
Celaph feels ok to me. He reads like someone trying to help. It might be fake, but it doesn't seem like it after my iso.
Folk aren't interested in pyxie atm.
I also iso'd damo. I see sabi's point. I also see damo auditioning for webdip mafia stand up comic. Maybe he just doesn't see anything to dug into. But...
##vote damo

This is going to sound silly, but I'm actually more inclined to trust the people who are suspicious of me vs the people who townread me. So I lowkey kind of want to trust Chaqa, I'd feel inclined to trust Bo more if Bo had been active enough to give me more of an impression as a person.

The people who I'm most suspicious of are honestly Damo (for the reasons stated earlier), and Pyx who did not feel like he was attempting to solve anything. At the same Bo similarly does not feel very participatey, kind of just here?

Celaph's questions feel more relevent and on topic, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I have no really strong opinions on others at this time.

Pretty good thoughts, rumi. So you know who you want to vote among. Damo or pyx. Am i summarizing you accurately?