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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#41 Post by Saw725 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:35 pm

Y'all seem a bit off-track, so I'll give out a hint.

HINT:
Start exploring other forms of media. This character has appeared in film and comics, but neither of those are what I or most people who recognize the franchise would associate this character with first.

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#42 Post by SenatorNyxen » Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:51 pm

Is the character best known from a novel or series of novels?

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#43 Post by Saw725 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:57 pm

SenatorNyxen wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:51 pm
Is the character best known from a novel or series of novels?
No.

RECAP:
1) Fictional
2) Not female
3) Not human
4) From Earth or an Earth-like location
5) Does not use human-like speech
6) Not an existing animal
7) Is a magical or mythological creature
8) Uses telepathy or other non-verbal speech-like communication
9) Not from a work of high fantasy
10) Is from a work of science fiction
11) Not from Star Trek
12) Is a comic book character, not what you'd associate this character with though
13) Is humanoid in shape
14) Not a "good guy"
15) Not best known from novels

INCORRECT GUESSES:
Gollum (damo666)

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#44 Post by Saw725 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:20 pm

Updating recap because I missed a question

RECAP:
1) Fictional
2) Not female
3) Not human
4) From Earth or an Earth-like location
5) Does not use human-like speech
6) Not an existing animal
7) Is a magical or mythological creature
8) Uses telepathy or other non-verbal speech-like communication
9) Not from a work of high fantasy
10) Is from a work of science fiction
11) Has appeared in film
12) Not from Star Trek
13) Is a comic book character, not what you'd associate this character with though
14) Is humanoid in shape
15) Not a "good guy"
16) Not best known from novels

FOUR QUESTIONS LEFT

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#45 Post by SenatorNyxen » Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:36 pm

Just as a point of order, I'm reading your guidance not to dwell on the difference between cinema, TV, or streaming, and also the hint that film is not where the character is best known. From that I'm inferring that television/streaming is also not the medium where the character is best known from. If that's the not the case then I think your hints are bit contradictory.

If it is though, then I'm not sure what scifi media there are outside of novels, comic books, and video. Short stories/novellas? Theater? Podcast? Oral tradition? Epic poem?

I guess at some point I should ask an actual question, so: Was the character's first appearance in media before Jan 1 2000?

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#46 Post by Saw725 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:48 pm

SenatorNyxen wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:36 pm
Just as a point of order, I'm reading your guidance not to dwell on the difference between cinema, TV, or streaming, and also the hint that film is not where the character is best known. From that I'm inferring that television/streaming is also not the medium where the character is best known from. If that's the not the case then I think your hints are bit contradictory.

If it is though, then I'm not sure what scifi media there are outside of novels, comic books, and video. Short stories/novellas? Theater? Podcast? Oral tradition? Epic poem?

I guess at some point I should ask an actual question, so: Was the character's first appearance in media before Jan 1 2000?
All of those assumptions are correct, and the answer to that question is yes.

HINT:
All of the alternate forms of media suggested in this quote are incorrect. This character is from a modern and popular media form.

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#47 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:49 pm

I've got one.

Is the character primarily or originally known for their appearance in a video game?

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#48 Post by Saw725 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:50 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:49 pm
I've got one.

Is the character primarily or originally known for their appearance in a video game?
There we go, yes.

RECAP:
1) Fictional
2) Not female
3) Not human
4) From Earth or an Earth-like location
5) Does not use human-like speech
6) Not an existing animal
7) Is a magical or mythological creature
8) Uses telepathy or other non-verbal speech-like communication
9) Not from a work of high fantasy
10) Is from a work of science fiction
11) Has appeared in film
12) Not from Star Trek
13) Is a comic book character, not what you'd associate this character with though
14) Is humanoid in shape
15) Not a "good guy"
16) Not best known from novels
17) First appearance in media was before January 1, 2000
18) Primarily known for its appearance in a video game

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Gollum (damo666)

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#49 Post by Saw725 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:51 pm

TWO QUESTIONS LEFT!

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#50 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:52 pm

Ok we only have two questions left so please can everyone be careful.

This is a video game character, probably a principal antagonist in a well-known video game series. They're male or androgynous, they're human shaped but they use some kind of telepathic means of communication; they don't speak verbally.

Let's think about this, we have a lot of clues.

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#51 Post by Saw725 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:58 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:52 pm
Ok we only have two questions left so please can everyone be careful.

This is a video game character, probably a principal antagonist in a well-known video game series. They're male or androgynous, they're human shaped but they use some kind of telepathic means of communication; they don't speak verbally.

Let's think about this, we have a lot of clues.
I'm going to suggest narrowing down the franchise first, since there are still a lot of options. Video games are the primary media form, but this character, and by extension the franchise, has appeared in film and comic.

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#52 Post by damo666 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:03 pm

I'm not familiar with the Genre. Wikipedia list 19 video game telepaths, some of whom are female and some clearly not humanoid.

Does G-Man fit the bill (does he speak?) - question for the audience, not a game question.

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#53 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:06 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:03 pm
I'm not familiar with the Genre. Wikipedia list 19 video game telepaths, some of whom are female and some clearly not humanoid.

Does G-Man fit the bill (does he speak?) - question for the audience, not a game question.
G Man from Half-Life? No there's definitely a bit where he has a spoken conversation in the first game, for sure.

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#54 Post by SenatorNyxen » Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:08 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:49 pm
I've got one.

Is the character primarily or originally known for their appearance in a video game?
Good catch.
Does G-Man fit the bill (does he speak?)
He does speak, I checked. It's not Protoss or Zerg because they're decidedly extra-terrestrial. I think Shodan would count as both female and verbal speech.

I think genre would at least be easier to nail down than franchise. For pre-2000 scifi games I think the most likely would be RPG, but strategy and FPS are plausible. Adventure or platformer feels unlikely?

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#55 Post by Saw725 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:51 pm

I'm about to head to work, which means I won't be able to respond here until my break in about 3-4 hours. Take all the time y'all need for discussion.

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#56 Post by Saw725 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:08 pm

So it appears we haven't gotten anywhere since I was last online. I'll narrow the genre down to RPG.

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#57 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:54 pm

I'm pretty stuck. A non-human 90's sci-fi RPG baddie who doesn't speak and uses telepathy? I'm really not sure.

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#58 Post by Saw725 » Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:38 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:54 pm
I'm pretty stuck. A non-human 90's sci-fi RPG baddie who doesn't speak and uses telepathy? I'm really not sure.
The sci-fi aspect is loose, but most people would classify this franchise as such.
They're definitely a "baddie" in the films they appear in, but the games make the character appear more indifferent towards the main character.
Lack of speech and using telepathy is a trait more explored in the film, since the games don't give this character much room to express themselves.

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#59 Post by SenatorNyxen » Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:45 am

Mewtwo?

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 27

#60 Post by Saw725 » Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:16 am

SenatorNyxen wrote:
Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:45 am
Mewtwo?
You got it.

I wasn't expecting this one to be nearly as hard as it ended up being.

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