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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5861 Post by Chaqa » Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:36 pm

Why does Maniac fake claim Cop on D4 when his partner Vecna is on the block and the Cop is alive?

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5862 Post by ghug » Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:53 pm

damo666 wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:34 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:25 pm
Let's all just agree it's Maniac.
Yep. Maniac 2m. Those alive on d8 can worry about the goon.
I don't see how Maniac is possibly more scummy than gold.

I really think you're town, damo, but it's kinda frustrating that when I'm scum you always catch me but when I'm town your reads are like this.

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5863 Post by Chaqa » Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:55 pm

I think the scum team is exactly Goldfather Godfinger, and Goony McGoon Rivera.

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5864 Post by ghug » Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:57 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:55 pm
I think the scum team is exactly Goldfather Godfinger, and Goony McGoon Rivera.
Rivera's "I've been bad and I'm gonna be miskilled" schtick has me doubting again. I think it's gold and Jamie.

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5865 Post by goldfinger0303 » Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:01 pm

I'm coming around to the whole idea of Chaqa faking that RB again.

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5866 Post by Chaqa » Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:03 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:01 pm
I'm coming around to the whole idea of Chaqa faking that RB again.
Literally impossible

You know for a fact Vecna roleblocked me specifically because it would drive me crazy for being suspected for it

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5867 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:20 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:57 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:55 pm
I think the scum team is exactly Goldfather Godfinger, and Goony McGoon Rivera.
Rivera's "I've been bad and I'm gonna be miskilled" schtick has me doubting again. I think it's gold and Jamie.
It isn't.
The only person you're truly competing against, Wesley, is yourself.

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5868 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:20 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:03 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:01 pm
I'm coming around to the whole idea of Chaqa faking that RB again.
Literally impossible

You know for a fact Vecna roleblocked me specifically because it would drive me crazy for being suspected for it
It's not mechanically impossible.
The only person you're truly competing against, Wesley, is yourself.

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5869 Post by damo666 » Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:05 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:53 pm
damo666 wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:34 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:25 pm
Let's all just agree it's Maniac.
Yep. Maniac 2m. Those alive on d8 can worry about the goon.
I don't see how Maniac is possibly more scummy than gold.

I really think you're town, damo, but it's kinda frustrating that when I'm scum you always catch me but when I'm town your reads are like this.
d4 5 minutes to go it's HR 5 Vec 5 Gold 4

Why would RBerVecna move from townHR to GFGold?

I cannot entertain the idea Gold is scum.

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5870 Post by Maniac » Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:07 pm

Just looking at Damo's voting patterns...

DAY 1
damo666 wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:54 am
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 1:33 am
i will be tactically lurking until tmrw night/tues morning

glhf
No you won't.

##vote DeathLlama8

##end
damo666 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:42 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:40 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:39 pm

(big post from Bob that doesn't mention Foxtail/Vecna)

Interesting that you do not mention Foxcastle whatsoever.
What is your opinion on Foxcastle and why is he missing from your list?
Oh you [Bob] voted for him [Foxcastle] while I was posting that.
Laugh out loud.
Wasn't that a bit odd?

##vote Bob
I really like this post knowing that Damo is still pushing Bob much later on. Bob's post not mentioning Foxcastle and then voting for him is interesting as is Jamie calling him out on it.
damo666 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:48 pm
BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:44 pm
Oh I forgot goldfinger too damnit. Give him a pass. I really need to actually check my lists for completeness lol.
OK ##unvote

Back to the drawing board.

##vote Maniac as a placeholder
@Damo - Why did Bob also forgetting goldie make you change your mind?
damo666 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:11 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:52 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:48 pm


OK ##unvote

Back to the drawing board.

##vote Maniac as a placeholder
Why not vote Foxcastle?

He is a good suspect.

I have laid out my reasons why.
I understand your case but I'm not convinced. But I'm not convinced on anyone!

back to ##vote Bob to make it a 3 way tie and watch with interest
Back to Bob but it doesn't seem to have any conviction, possibly allowing himself wriggle room to move off. He turned down opportunity to vote Foxcastle.
damo666 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:11 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:58 pm
##vote TheFlyingBoat

Someone being ever-present for the entire shitposting phase only to pretty much disappear into the aether ever since, and only crop up whenever they're the object of discussions; aside from parroting questions at RHK on data, is a pretty disappointing display.
I find HR's argument pretty persuasive. ##vote TheFlyingBoat
^So this is pretty interesting with ScumCelaph and ScumFoxVecna as the lead wagons Damo shifts to open up a third wagon by accepting someone else's case over his own earlier thoughts.
damo666 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:02 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:57 pm
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Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:39 pm


Bozo was the other who stuck out to me too. I've wifommed his alignment in my head in loops over it.
I guess it won't hurt to directly ask at this point what he thinks about it.
I remembered you bringing this up in a previous game, so I went along with it, but now that is has received so much attention I did check your previous scum games and in M59 you did say "I'm town". I know you have retracted your claim, but you went along with it for awhile, so I am not sure I buy your explanation.
##vote Flum

He has to go. Too much confusion and doubt now.

##End

I will not be here EOD.
^With ScumCelaph out in front Damo then votes Flum moving him into second place. Was this building a viable alternative wagon and letting other scum decide if celaph was to be bussed or saved? Or did Damo follow scum!Jamie and Scum!TFB on to Flum? As it happened Flum became a runnaway wagon

This concludes Damo D1 voting

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5871 Post by ghug » Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:09 pm

damo666 wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:05 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:53 pm
damo666 wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:34 pm


Yep. Maniac 2m. Those alive on d8 can worry about the goon.
I don't see how Maniac is possibly more scummy than gold.

I really think you're town, damo, but it's kinda frustrating that when I'm scum you always catch me but when I'm town your reads are like this.
d4 5 minutes to go it's HR 5 Vec 5 Gold 4

Why would RBerVecna move from townHR to GFGold?

I cannot entertain the idea Gold is scum.
HR was aggressively pushing the idea that Vecna was scum because he wasn't moving. It seemed exceedingly likely that one of Vecna and gold would die. Moving to cut losses and create some distance is entirely within the realm of possibility.

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5872 Post by Maniac » Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:20 pm

Damo voting record

Day two
damo666 wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:57 am
##vote Bob

Either scum or an inconvenience
damo666 wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:46 am
##vote demonRHK
damo666 wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:16 pm
Leaning back to scum on Bob now after gold's post and Demon not gaining traction so ##vote Bob.

This is probably my last post for about 24 hours.

I got 10 minutes before I have to go offline.
^another really interesting post. With wagons at Bob 4, scumCelaph 3, Scum Vecna 3, Damo pushes bob further and again signals he won't be revisiting his vote.

Looking back did we have 3 scum as lead wagons on D2 with 7hrs to go?

True to his word Damo doesn't vote again D2. Goldie vote around this time is interesting, he goes to celaph but then joins damo on Bob (with me). I think Bob looks good here if Damo is scum.

Here endth Damo d2 votes

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5873 Post by Maniac » Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:55 pm

Damo voting

Day three
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:53 pm
I would guess most if not all celaph voters are town. Most likely busser would be Vecna.

Celaph's vote probably indicates TFB is town. I expect at least 3 scum on TFB. Very much doubt Blamp is scum though. [remember for later] HR looks horrible but does he do all that analysis as scum? Possible ofc but highly doubtful imo.

I am therefore willing to vote any of Bona kgray Bob Durga.

##vote Durga
^with early voting being scumDurga 4 v scumvecna 3, Damo votes for Durga and also says Vecna is most likely celaph busser (but doesn't include him in people he'd vote for)
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:23 pm
If my assumptions are right the only 4somes that fit are

Blamp gold kgray Maniac
Blamp Vecna HR kgray
Blamp Vecna kgray Maniac

So Blamp and kgray must be scum . My best guess at the other two are Vecna Maniac.

##vote BusinessLamp
^my underlining to emphasize Damo's 180 degree switch on Blamp. Durga who he was originally voting for now doesn't make the list of possible scum.
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:54 pm
I must admit I'm not comfortable with my Blamp vote.

##vote Vecna
^having been certain Blamp was in every possible scum team, Damo is now not comfortable with voting for him. Honest flip-flopping or a desire to bus vecna?
damo666 wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:12 am
Donny Dude wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:28 am
I dont like the way damo progressed on blamp and just gave it up after minimal pressure.
I'm glad you posted this because it's made me realise something.

The reason I was voting Blamp was I couldn't formulate a scumteam without him. However this was on the assumption Bona is town (due to Chaqa's mucking about).

Therefore I now realise AT LEAST ONE OF BONA AND BLAMP MUST BE SCUM. Of these Bona is much more likely imo.

So ##vote Bona.

If Bona doesn't take off (it should, follow the reasoning) I'll revert back to Vecna or maybe Durga.

And why is Bona so fixated on TFB?

And why was he displeased at the celaph kill post the scumslip? Weird in the extreme.
^another interesting post, having flipped-flopped on Blamp Damo is now convinced he or Bona must be scum but says if Bona wagon doesn't get traction he'll vote for durga or vecna (but not Blamp??)

I find it hard to follow this logic. Kudos to Donny here btw.
damo666 wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:22 am
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:16 pm
I have revisited the voting and conclude the following are town.

Bob
TFB
Chaqa
DemonRHK
Donny
ghug
Jamiet
rdr


So the remaining scum are in this pool

Blamp
Bona
Durga
Vecna
gold
HR
kgray
Maniac


I find the following pairings unlikely

Blamp Durga
Gold Vecna
Gold HR
kgray Durga
Maniac HR

More to follow....
For Jamie. These WERE my assumptions however I have moved kgray to town for her RB claim and Blamp more or less to town because he just doesn't seem like scum. So the unlikely BlampDurga and kgrayDurga can be ignored.

The only 2 possibles teams are therefore

Bona Durga Gold Maniac

OR

Bona Durga Vecna HR

So Bona and durga both deffo scum.

##vote Durga

##End
^more flipping on Blamp. Damo's vote on Durga was when she was running away as lead wagon. Interestingly while Damo votes END he doesn't state he won't be around at EOD when scum Durha is the lead wagon.
damo666 wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:56 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:55 am
ghug wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:25 pm


Busbusbusbusbus
The wheels on the bus go round and round...
##vote Durga
Despite being absent at previous EOD, Damo pops up 4 mins from time to vote Durga.

D3 Damo voting analysis ends.

Maybe more days later - I have to do other stuff.

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5874 Post by Maniac » Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:52 pm

I don’t have time to do other days. I suspect I might die. Damo is my top goon read and goldie my best godfather read.

So if I die kill Ghug

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5875 Post by Chaqa » Thu Feb 03, 2022 11:37 pm

We’re looking at cars again… other one fell through :/

I’ll post some thoughts near EoN if I can

If I die don’t kill ghug

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5876 Post by damo666 » Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:01 am

Maniac wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:52 pm
I don’t have time to do other days. I suspect I might die. Damo is my top goon read and goldie my best godfather read.

So if I die kill Ghug
Maniac pretending he's town and not confident in his reads?

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#5877 Post by ghug » Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:16 am

damo666 wrote:
Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:01 am
Maniac wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:52 pm
I don’t have time to do other days. I suspect I might die. Damo is my top goon read and goldie my best godfather read.

So if I die kill Ghug
Maniac pretending he's town and not confident in his reads?
How can you possibly not understand that this is a joke at this point?

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5878 Post by Chaqa » Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:24 am

ghug wrote:
Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:16 am
damo666 wrote:
Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:01 am
Maniac wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:52 pm
I don’t have time to do other days. I suspect I might die. Damo is my top goon read and goldie my best godfather read.

So if I die kill Ghug
Maniac pretending he's town and not confident in his reads?
How can you possibly not understand that this is a joke at this point?
Why is Damo role playing as Jamie

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5879 Post by ghug » Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:32 am

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:24 am
ghug wrote:
Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:16 am
damo666 wrote:
Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:01 am


Maniac pretending he's town and not confident in his reads?
How can you possibly not understand that this is a joke at this point?
Why is Damo role playing as Jamie
They just don't understand Maniac's dry British houmour.

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5880 Post by ghug » Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:53 am

If i die, it's all someone else's problem.

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