M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[DemonRHK]

I actually have no townreads.

You don't even townread ghug, Donny, or Jamie?

I don't know. ghug agrees with me a lot, which is sus. Donny would've had to be bussing celaph pretty hard from the start so it should be a townier slot, but I have doubts anyway. The only reason I think Jamie is unlikely to be scum is Durga trying to flash-wagon him D2 but who knows if she thought that would have ever taken off so idk.

I guess I townread Demon the most.

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[BesharamSabi]

VOTE COUNT VERSION 4.02

sorry I have been busy

Vecna (4) DemonRHK Donny Dude rdrivera2005 Jamiet99uk
Hellenic Riot (3) TheFlyingBoat Maniac damo666*
rdrivera2005 (2) kgray ghug
goldfinger0303 (2) BobMcBob Chaqa
TheFlyingBoat (1) Bonatogether
damo666 (1) Vecna
Bonatogether (1) goldfinger0303

Non Voters: Hellenic Riot

VECNA IS SET TO BE ATTACKED BY AN ANGRY SWARM OF KILLER BEES

EOD is in 4 hours

The 100 folds in a chef's hat represent 100 ways to cook an egg.

[Donny Dude]

Hr why have you not voted yet?

[Donny Dude]

btw I wont be around for eod have class from now to 230 then again at 4 till 7

[Tom Bombadil]

##CAll GM

How are Mafia night votes handled? Majority, Newest vote or other? How are tiebreaks handled? And are scum allowed to redirect their teammates actions?

GM NOTE:

Votes are majority with the most recent vote being the tiebreaker.

Scum is allowed to enter an action for a teammate, but the actual role takes precedent over any other teammate entering an order.

[Hellenic Riot]

Interesting. So one scum couldn't change the nightkill or RB by themselves.

Still a null point unless there's two scum in Maniac, Jamie, Damo, Vecna, and Goldie; but that isn't entirely infeasible I suppose.

Hr why have you not voted yet?

I already answered this ages ago. Why haven't you read it? What reads do you have? Any thoughts of your own to add to any of this discussion?

[ghug]

Interesting. So one scum couldn't change the nightkill or RB by themselves.

Still a null point unless there's two scum in Maniac, Jamie, Damo, Vecna, and Goldie; but that isn't entirely infeasible I suppose.

Hr why have you not voted yet?

I already answered this ages ago. Why haven't you read it? What reads do you have? Any thoughts of your own to add to any of this discussion?

They probably could have anyway. The thing to do nowadays is have one person enter the order so that anyone can change it.

[kgray]

Interesting. So one scum couldn't change the nightkill or RB by themselves.

Still a null point unless there's two scum in Maniac, Jamie, Damo, Vecna, and Goldie; but that isn't entirely infeasible I suppose.

Hr why have you not voted yet?

I already answered this ages ago. Why haven't you read it? What reads do you have? Any thoughts of your own to add to any of this discussion?

The RB'er could have changed the RB by themselves.

[kgray]

Hi Lamp. Blink three times if HR is scum.

[Jamiet99uk]

Interesting. So one scum couldn't change the nightkill or RB by themselves.

Still a null point unless there's two scum in Maniac, Jamie, Damo, Vecna, and Goldie; but that isn't entirely infeasible I suppose.

Hr why have you not voted yet?

I already answered this ages ago. Why haven't you read it? What reads do you have? Any thoughts of your own to add to any of this discussion?

The RB'er could have changed the RB by themselves.

Correct. This game has a Roleblocker role, it's not a factional roleblock. The only factional decision for Mafia is the Night Kill.

[Chaqa]

I don't feel too great about these wagons. Maybe it's just cold feet, idk.

Why aren't we voting Maniac?

Vecna has more than double his activity.

[Hellenic Riot]

##Vote TFB

Wakey wakey; time to reappear from under your rock

[kgray]

If we're doing a random wagon I think it should be damo rather than boatman.

[kgray]

Durga actually shaded tfb D1 and not in as hedgy of a way as she did with celaph.

Yeah yeah Durga busses now but not by going off one teammate to make a different teammate a contending wagon 8 hrs before EOD. And then with 20 minutes left in the day she's on board for a tfb flashwagon, which, again, I think is in response to Rivera being the next most likely upcoming flashwagon/flum counterwagon. And then she was up for bob instead of Rivera too.

Plus if Rivera is town why didn't Durga NK him N1?

Anyway I don't think it's boat. And if you think Jamie is town you have to think boatman is town.

[Chaqa]

Durga actually shaded tfb D1 and not in as hedgy of a way as she did with celaph.

Yeah yeah Durga busses now but not by going off one teammate to make a different teammate a contending wagon 8 hrs before EOD. And then with 20 minutes left in the day she's on board for a tfb flashwagon, which, again, I think is in response to Rivera being the next most likely upcoming flashwagon/flum counterwagon. And then she was up for bob instead of Rivera too.

Plus if Rivera is town why didn't Durga NK him N1?

Anyway I don't think it's boat. And if you think Jamie is town you have to think boatman is town.

The thing is, TFB might be town, but flipping him is like a litmus test of our assumptions of the entire game.

If he flips roleblocker or godfather, that has major implications on our PoE.

Given we have minimum of five flips left, I do still think it would be worth it to use one on him.

Vecna is a decent proxy for TFB, but TFB hasn't really like done anything besides pop in when he's mentioned. I don't know his play well enough to say if that's normal or not.

[Jamiet99uk]

I don't feel too great about these wagons. Maybe it's just cold feet, idk.

Why aren't we voting Maniac?

Vecna has more than double his activity.

##Vote Maniac

Ok Chaqa, now you.

[Chaqa]

I really do not like the Vecna wagon for today. Maybe tomorrow.

##Vote Maniac

[Chaqa]

I don't feel too great about these wagons. Maybe it's just cold feet, idk.

Why aren't we voting Maniac?

Vecna has more than double his activity.

##Vote Maniac

Ok Chaqa, now you.

Hah, crossposted, nice.

[kgray]

Will there ever be a case on Maniac? Like literally, ever? Or should I stop bothering asking for one?

[kgray]

Durga actually shaded tfb D1 and not in as hedgy of a way as she did with celaph.

Yeah yeah Durga busses now but not by going off one teammate to make a different teammate a contending wagon 8 hrs before EOD. And then with 20 minutes left in the day she's on board for a tfb flashwagon, which, again, I think is in response to Rivera being the next most likely upcoming flashwagon/flum counterwagon. And then she was up for bob instead of Rivera too.

Plus if Rivera is town why didn't Durga NK him N1?

Anyway I don't think it's boat. And if you think Jamie is town you have to think boatman is town.

The thing is, TFB might be town, but flipping him is like a litmus test of our assumptions of the entire game.

If he flips roleblocker or godfather, that has major implications on our PoE.

Given we have minimum of five flips left, I do still think it would be worth it to use one on him.

Vecna is a decent proxy for TFB, but TFB hasn't really like done anything besides pop in when he's mentioned. I don't know his play well enough to say if that's normal or not.

Why do we need a litmus test to decide scum are probably looking for town counterwagons to their teammates instead of putting up a different scumbo for the kill? Especially if your whole thing is that boatman might be a scum PR. Why does Durga bus him and celaph both on D1?

This is so frustrating, I can't agree with anything you're saying.