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Re: wD Mafia Master Post

#1201 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:19 pm

Shit.

I hate Discord. Fucking awful platform.
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#1202 Post by ghug » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:30 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:19 pm
Shit.

I hate Discord. Fucking awful platform.
Them it should be a seamless transmission from QuickTopic.
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#1203 Post by President Eden » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:32 pm

tbh QuickTopic only gets used due to sheer inertia/legacy, it was hip in the mid-00s or so when online mafia first came into being and never switched out because it worked, but there’s got to be something better anyway. we’ll take this opportunity to figure out a more modern way to handle private comms.

that said, have my F in chat
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#1204 Post by Chaqa » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:37 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:19 pm
Shit.

I hate Discord. Fucking awful platform.
We are open to other suggestions, if you have them.
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#1205 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:05 pm

ghug wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:30 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:19 pm
Shit.

I hate Discord. Fucking awful platform.
[Then] it should be a seamless [transition] from QuickTopic.
QuickTopic does exactly what is required of it. It's simple, easily searchable, recognises html markups, and (until now) allowed threads to remain on file after you'd finished with them. It's a shame something that works perfectly well is being discontinued.
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#1206 Post by ghug » Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:39 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:05 pm
ghug wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:30 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:19 pm
Shit.

I hate Discord. Fucking awful platform.
[Then] it should be a seamless [transition] from QuickTopic.
QuickTopic does exactly what is required of it. It's simple, easily searchable, recognises html markups, and (until now) allowed threads to remain on file after you'd finished with them. It's a shame something that works perfectly well is being discontinued.
Thanks for correcting my typos. That's very helpful of you.

I agree that having to switch is annoying, but QT was firmly stuck in 2003, so I'm struggling to find too much sadness within me.
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#1207 Post by BobMcBob » Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:51 am

Good luck brain, it's been fun

RIP QuickTopic

Also advance warning, I'm going to need a game (or two) to run before mine (since brain's M71 is no longer happening I assume) so if someone wants to steal that slot that would be great. I won't be able to run mine until early January unless lockdowns.
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#1208 Post by damo666 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:23 am

Is it possible to have private passworded threads on the forum?
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#1209 Post by Chaqa » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:28 pm

damo666 wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:23 am
Is it possible to have private passworded threads on the forum?
No.

We're looking at alternatives, but Discord seems like the most straightforward, current, and widely-used option.
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#1210 Post by worcej » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:24 pm

2cents - Discord for private chats is totally fine, but be sure to realize there are ways to cheese activity.

Best thing I know is every private chat needs to be it's own server that is created by the GM, with invites controlled accordingly.
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#1211 Post by Chaqa » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:34 pm

worcej wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:24 pm
2cents - Discord for private chats is totally fine, but be sure to realize there are ways to cheese activity.

Best thing I know is every private chat needs to be it's own server that is created by the GM, with invites controlled accordingly.
We had a God QT on Discord in one of the recent games that used this approach.

I'm also considering making chats in the WebDip discord that are only visible to the appropriate people, which should allow for more long-term searching, but it's not set in stone yet.
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#1212 Post by bo_sox48 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:20 pm

You can see who belongs to what servers on Discord and you can see what roles people have internally on each server. I'd be very cautious using it and only do so if you know it well.
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Re: wD Mafia Master Post

#1213 Post by Chaqa » Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:31 pm

bo_sox48 wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:20 pm
You can see who belongs to what servers on Discord and you can see what roles people have internally on each server. I'd be very cautious using it and only do so if you know it well.
You can only see *mutual* servers, and you can add channel-by-channel permissions outside of a role, so there shouldn't be any issues from a technology standpoint.
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Re: wD Mafia Master Post

#1214 Post by President Eden » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:46 pm

We can just make group chats for the mafia…

Discord is definitely capable of handling things for us technologically. My main concern personally is that it requires people to maintain an active account separate from their webDiplomacy account. Not requiring that was the main draw to QuickTopic IMO.
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Re: wD Mafia Master Post

#1215 Post by President Eden » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:51 pm

President Eden wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:46 pm
We can just make group chats for the mafia…

Discord is definitely capable of handling things for us technologically. My main concern personally is that it requires people to maintain an active account separate from their webDiplomacy account. Not requiring that was the main draw to QuickTopic IMO.
belatedly realized that this would make viewing them postgame difficult, not to mention not work for God QT.

but it does solve the privacy/gamesmanship issues at least
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Re: wD Mafia Master Post

#1216 Post by bo_sox48 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:10 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:31 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:20 pm
You can see who belongs to what servers on Discord and you can see what roles people have internally on each server. I'd be very cautious using it and only do so if you know it well.
You can only see *mutual* servers, and you can add channel-by-channel permissions outside of a role, so there shouldn't be any issues from a technology standpoint.
Hence why I said only do it if you know it well. A GM making a mistake has blown up a fair number of games. Ask me how I know.
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Re: wD Mafia Master Post

#1217 Post by ghug » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:21 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:31 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:20 pm
You can see who belongs to what servers on Discord and you can see what roles people have internally on each server. I'd be very cautious using it and only do so if you know it well.
You can only see *mutual* servers, and you can add channel-by-channel permissions outside of a role, so there shouldn't be any issues from a technology standpoint.
It is worth considering that not all GMs are going to be discord-savvy. Any solution that requires council aid seems undesirable.
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Re: wD Mafia Master Post

#1218 Post by dargorygel » Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:11 pm

We could try scum carrier pigeons... Scum Morse code wires... Scum esp... or simply have no scum team.
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Re: wD Mafia Master Post

#1219 Post by dargorygel » Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:12 pm

Or make no do it.
Hi Bo.
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Re: wD Mafia Master Post

#1220 Post by dargorygel » Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:21 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:12 pm
Or make no do it.
Hi Bo.
*Bo
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