Trigfea63 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:09 am
Sure, that sounds good. I'll take a random country?
Before we begin, a couple of closing comments on my Austria game. I wonder if it wasn't a mistake to hit back at Italy when Italy attacked in Spring '01. I managed to get 2 builds in 1901. Maybe the better course would have been to defend against Italy with 2 or 3 units, and use the other 2 or 3 to go after Turkey? Italy has such a strong defensive position against Austria, it is very difficult to make progress through TRI/ADR/VEN. On the other hand, having the 2nd fleet in the Adriatic really stopped Italy's attack cold. With maybe 1 or 2 better guesses, I might have been able to break out into a potential solo position. Big picture, I guess I'm not prepared to concede that all hope is lost as Austria if bot-Italy attacks. At least, so long as the attack is VEN-->TYR, ROM-->VEN, and Russia and Turkey are at war (as they were in this game).
Honestly, it's hard to say - Italy was being pretty singled minded about attacking you and you only had a couple of turn window to get it "right".
I ended up starting another game a few days ago (before I wrote my previous message) and randomly drew France. I didn't do the full turn-by-turn write up here, but I will do the short version catchup now and continue as I go. When this game is done, I'll do Austria.
https://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=438067
S1901 - I played my favorite opening, MAO,Gas,Spa. England moved to ENC, Italy stayed out of Pie, Germany stayed out of Bur.
F1901 - I correctly guessed that England wanted Bel, not Bre. Italy took Tun with a fleet, which always makes me a bit nervous as France. Decided to build two fleets, just in case, although I have no intent of attacking Italy at this time.
S1902 - Want to get all the units back as much as possible. Thinking about how to attack England - The Spa/Mar logjam is annoying, I'm going to move to GoL to make room...
F1902 - ...and I think I just provoked Italy by that move to GoL, even though I'm setup to take Lvp next year. Austria is down to 1 already, and R/T looks like they are cooperating...
S1903 - Made a mistake here by moving the fleets against Italy defensively instead of convoying to Lvp which was the original plan. I won't hold Lvp, of course.
A1903 - Ok, Italy and I have avoided coming to blows. Pushing against England. Germany is doing very well, not sure what I think about that.
S1904 - Moving on England. Germany's in Norway, hoo boy. Italy is still going after Turkey.
F1904 - Rather than try a convoy, I'm going to push towards ENC. I'll keep the armies away from Germany but it makes me nervous. Turkey is in the Ionian, not sure what I think about that.
S1905 - Now we convoy to Lvp and I'm a little nervous about Germany so I move Gas->Bur. Turkey gets into TYS (yuk!). Germany convoys to Yorkshire.
F1905 - I decide it's time to go after Germany, I don't feel like I'll get the chance later. I use ENC/Bur to take Bel and circle the fleets around to take NWS. Turkey and Italy are bouncing.
S1906 - Keep Germany out of Edi and prep to force it. I tried to support NTH but England moved it to Den (which is both good and bad). I also move to Bur, thinking about how to attack Germany over land.
F1906 - I take Edi, ENC supports London to try to keep Germany from getting it but it doesn't matter, as England defends it on his own. Germany gains Mos, though, so he doesn't lose any centers. Sadness. I try for Mun and get bounced - maybe Ruh would have been better? Not sure. Turkey is still in TYS. Germany loses another army.
S1907 - I take the North Sea and move a fleet south as insurance against whatever is going on in the south. I go into Ruh instead of trying for Mun and get it.
F1907 - I give up NTH to take London and Yorkshire - as expected, both units retreat to Wales and are destroyed (getting rid of the German army on the isle.) I try for Hol and don't get it, and end up building F Mar because of Turkey moving to GoL (I want to avoid guessing games down there).
S1908 - I take back NTH and get into Hol. Turkey moves to WMS, which is *really* annoying because I don't want him to sneak into MAO.
F1908 - I use ENC and Spa to bounce in MAO to keep Turkey from moving there. I try to convoy to Norway which was probably a mistake - I should have moved Edi->Bel, Bel->Ruh and taken the chance of losing Holland. I build F Bre.
S1909 - I move NTH->NWG (it seemed like a good idea, maybe Ska would have been better, but NWG keeps Nwy from out-flanking me.) I get Bre out into MAO, and move to GoL, but *of course* Italy goes to Pie. Germany is still overwhelming Russia, and Italy/Turkey hasn't changed much but Italy in Galicia might tip the balance...
F1909 - Germany gets Mos and another build. I keep Italy out of Mar. We bounce in NTH.
S1910 - Brining back MAO to contest NTH, it'll take a few turns. Germany gets into Ruh. Germany also takes Sev. Damn. Turkey moves to GoL. Turmoil in the Balkans.
F1910 - I moved to Kiel. Why did I move to Kiel? I don't remember. I got in at the cost of Holland. Still heading for NTH. Russia survived by moving into Ank, which means Turkey lost a center and it was WMS (which again, I'm not sure about).
S1911 - Italy moved out of Pie. Hooray! I got back into Hol, but I have a feeling I'm not going to keep it. Italy also moved fleets east (and traded Ser/Rum with Turkey again).
F1911 - I finally got into NTH and lost Hol but kept Kie because Germany took it from there. Rebuilt the army in Paris. Italy moved back to Pie (boo) and is collapsing fast on Turkey and got two builds to boot. It looks mighty like I'm going to be the odd man out here between the three of us.
So it's France at 10, Germany at 10, and Italy at 10... Have to think really hard about how to manage this hornet's nest.