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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#101 Post by goldfinger0303 » Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:19 pm

I really do hate how I consistently lose almost every 50/50 though....

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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#102 Post by goldfinger0303 » Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:47 am

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=336796

Did get one here though. Wins are coming fairly consistently now that I know the optimal counter opening :)
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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#103 Post by christinaFeggy » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:50 am

I've played many games but I finally got a win!

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameI ... ocache=594

(Ignore the ending, and the A (Bre) misorder)
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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#104 Post by dipperjay » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:12 am

christinaFeggy wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:50 am
I've played many games but I finally got a win!

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameI ... ocache=594

(Ignore the ending, and the A (Bre) misorder)
The last convoy was awesome!

I scored another win, getting the hang of it with a specific A02 counter, similar to what Goldfinger mentioned.

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=336816
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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#105 Post by goldfinger0303 » Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:20 am

dipperjay wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:12 am
christinaFeggy wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:50 am
I've played many games but I finally got a win!

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameI ... ocache=594

(Ignore the ending, and the A (Bre) misorder)
The last convoy was awesome!

I scored another win, getting the hang of it with a specific A02 counter, similar to what Goldfinger mentioned.

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=336816
Nice! Although I find that the bot will almost always cover Venice A02, so I've take to going to Tuscany instead of trying for it. But that fleet build in Marseilles really worked out for you! (with a little bit of luck)

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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#106 Post by Doug7878 » Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:11 pm

16 wins by webDippers in the last 100 games played as France vs the bot:
three each by goldfinger0303, dipperjay, and MerryBBuck, two each by Djantani and Randaz20, and one each by christinaFeggy, michaelf77 and zultar

Compare this to

7 wins by webDippers in the previous 100 games played as France vs the Bot: two each by zultar, Djantani and dipperjay, and one by martinck1

Heroes all...

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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#107 Post by Djantani » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:48 pm

I think the bot has had it. Would be good to speak to the developers - tried send a pm to one but still waiting to hear back.

We need 2.0 I think

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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#108 Post by dipperjay » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:36 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:20 am
dipperjay wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:12 am

I scored another win, getting the hang of it with a specific A02 counter, similar to what Goldfinger mentioned.

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=336816
Nice! Although I find that the bot will almost always cover Venice A02, so I've take to going to Tuscany instead of trying for it. But that fleet build in Marseilles really worked out for you! (with a little bit of luck)
Thanks. I saw you play that a few times and it worked well. Frankly, my “Italy game” isn’t very good, so I tend to stay away from it. My thinking on Venice is that bouncing keeps my army in Pie, where it can be really useful. Most importantly, it also creates just that one tempo to get a Mar fleet into Tys in A03, which makes the Tunis play much easier in my view.

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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#109 Post by dipperjay » Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:53 am

Djantani wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:48 pm
I think the bot has had it. Would be good to speak to the developers - tried send a pm to one but still waiting to hear back.

We need 2.0 I think
I agree, it’s definitely not superhuman anymore. Since I used the specific A02 counter, out of my last 7 games, I won 4, lost 2 and drew 1.

I get nowhere near those statistics against high-level human opponents...

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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#110 Post by christinaFeggy » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:09 pm

dipperjay wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:12 am
christinaFeggy wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:50 am
I've played many games but I finally got a win!

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameI ... ocache=594

(Ignore the ending, and the A (Bre) misorder)
The last convoy was awesome!

I scored another win, getting the hang of it with a specific A02 counter, similar to what Goldfinger mentioned.

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=336816
I like to call it the "French Lepanto"
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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#111 Post by goldfinger0303 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:36 pm

Oh wow I looked at Christina's game....there were so many simple tactical errors by the bot that could've ended it.

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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#112 Post by Doug7878 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:41 am

Three more human wins as France against the bot...

FvA-2663 by michaelf77,
https://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?game ... #gamePanel

Fva-2661 by Randaz20,
https://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?game ... #gamePanel

and Bot363 by dipperjay.
https://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?game ... #gamePanel

Good job,guys !

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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#113 Post by Ezio » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:24 am

Has anyone seen this before? All the pieces have vanished from the board, and the AI is no longer moving...
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameI ... #gamePanel

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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#114 Post by goldfinger0303 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:46 am

Ezio wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:24 am
Has anyone seen this before? All the pieces have vanished from the board, and the AI is no longer moving...
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameI ... #gamePanel
Don't cancel that, Ezio. I just pinged the dev people.

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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#115 Post by MerryBBuck » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:09 pm

Looks to me like Fairbot rage-quit. We've won, humans!
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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#116 Post by Ezio » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:44 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:46 am
Ezio wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:24 am
Has anyone seen this before? All the pieces have vanished from the board, and the AI is no longer moving...
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameI ... #gamePanel
Don't cancel that, Ezio. I just pinged the dev people.
Whoops. Well, currently both the bot and I are voting to cancel, and the game hasn't canceled yet...
https://gyazo.com/899cccea9188ef338bfd5a006be55500
Furthermore, I still can write in orders for all the old troops, despite only being able to see the ones that were just built. I wonder what will happen if I try to move them...

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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#117 Post by Ezio » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:51 pm

Ezio wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:44 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:46 am
Ezio wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:24 am
Has anyone seen this before? All the pieces have vanished from the board, and the AI is no longer moving...
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameI ... #gamePanel
Don't cancel that, Ezio. I just pinged the dev people.
Whoops. Well, currently both the bot and I are voting to cancel, and the game hasn't canceled yet...
https://gyazo.com/899cccea9188ef338bfd5a006be55500
Furthermore, I still can write in orders for all the old troops, despite only being able to see the ones that were just built. I wonder what will happen if I try to move them...
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=336759
Now the A.I has forgotten about the units it built in Vienna and Trieste. This game is amazing.

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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#118 Post by CptMike » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:56 am

Funny... Don't cancel the game. It is interesting to keep the track for the record.

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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#119 Post by dipperjay » Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:11 am

Probably the worst game I've seen Fairbot play against me. A crushing win in 1906:

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=337336

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Re: France vs Austria Bot Challenge

#120 Post by Doug7878 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:10 pm

Do you have an opinion on this ?

In AvF, when F builds Army MAR in '01, should the Austrian Army TYR move to MUN or PIE in S'02 ? Fairbot often moves to MUN in this situation.

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