January Ghost Ratings Published

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Re: January Ghost Ratings Published

#41 Post by ghug » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:09 pm

I can send it to you if you like. It's a complete clusterfuck.

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Re: January Ghost Ratings Published

#42 Post by ghug » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:15 pm

The data dump doesn't currently contain bet data, since the amount of GR "bet" is derived from each player's current rating.

The dump is hosted here if you want to take a look.

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Re: January Ghost Ratings Published

#43 Post by Yonni » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:00 pm

Whoa, thanks. Never knew we could get our hands on the dump.

Do you have a legend for the variant types?

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Re: January Ghost Ratings Published

#44 Post by Aereaux » Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:42 am

Yonni wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:00 pm
Do you have a legend for the variant types?
It looks like you can find it here: https://github.com/kestasjk/webDiplomac ... r/variants

It's the id in the variant.php for each variant.

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Re: January Ghost Ratings Published

#45 Post by CCR » Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:01 am

Under the current system, good players who praise the ranking do not take over "condemned" powers, even those with good sc count if that power is in a bad tactical/diplomatic position!
I found the system used for GR is equal (ok, similar) to the JDPR ratings from 20 years ago, completely explained at
http://www.diplomatic-pouch.org/Email/R ... ribe.html
But the Replacement policy in JDPR is much better developed:
http://www.diplomatic-pouch.org/Email/R ... lace.html
I believe both the GR and the vranking regarding Replacement Policy should be improved with JDPR's experience:
  • pro-rated strenghts by phases played,
  • pro-rated expected values,
  • pro-rated points won from the game,
  • and, specially benefic to the whole community as general stimulous for replacing condemned powers, the simple rule "in the case of a replacement player, he would NOT lower his rating based on that game -- it would remain unchanged.

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Re: January Ghost Ratings Published

#46 Post by Yonni » Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:23 am

Aereaux, thanks.

CCB, I believe the issue is that the code that scrapes the system for results doesn't track replacements. There's a lot of work for the few people who spend time working on this site and they haven't gotten around to changing that.

I actually way prefer the way the Judge calculates rating than what we do. I'm going to see if I can write something in shitty kiddy-script that can calculate Judge Dip ratings using our results.

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Re: January Ghost Ratings Published

#47 Post by CCR » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:29 am

It may not track replacements, but it is feasible realizing if a player was a replacement or not: just check the bets of the remaining players (?).

Thus, the simple rule "in the case of a replacement player, he would NOT lower his rating based on that game - it would remain unchanged" may be applicable - of course, a positive result for a replacer still counts; then I reiterate, this rule is especially benefic to the whole community as general stimulous for goood players replacing condemned powers!

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Re: January Ghost Ratings Published

#48 Post by ghug » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:48 am

Bets aren't in the dump sadly. I'm not sure how easy it would be to change that, and there's an issue that the rules on replacement bets changed at some point, but that could be a good band-aid solution.

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Re: January Ghost Ratings Published

#49 Post by chluke » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:19 am

Boo!

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