Why does saying "I don't want to cause harm to others because I can empathise with other humans and I don't wish to cause them harm" have less value to you than "I refrain from harming others because otherwise the Lord will send me to hell"?CaptainFritz28 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:37 amApologies. I made a mistake there. I should not have said that you cannot make moral judgements, but simply that your moral judgements mean nothing to anyone else without a standard to back them.
So while you may condemn murder, that has no bearing on the universal condemnation or support of murder.
I put it to you that my moral judgement has *more* value because I have come to it myself, driven by altruism and empathy, not because I fear eternal punishment by an all-powerful being.
You might try to do good because you fear the punishment of hell, and because you desire rewards in the afterlife.
I try to do good despite not expecting any reward in heaven.
I don't care about pleasing magical sky daddy.