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Gulf of Bothnia support hold StP North Coast?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:34 pm
by Red Dingo
In this game, https://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=390409, a fleet in the Gulf of Bothnia is supporting hold of fleet in St. Petersburg North Coast.

I thought support hold could only be given if the unit could move to that space.

Do I remember wrong?

-- Scott

Re: Gulf of Bothnia support hold StP North Coast?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:04 pm
by captainmeme
Coasts don't matter when it comes to supports - the unit only has to be able able to move to the province, not the specific coast. So GoB can support hold any unit in StP.

Re: Gulf of Bothnia support hold StP North Coast?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:05 pm
by JECE
See page 8 of the rules:
Bulgaria, Spain, and St. Petersburg: These are the only coastal provinces that have two separately identified coasts. A Fleet entering one of these provinces enters along one coast and can then move to a province adjacent to that coast only. The Fleet, nevertheless, is considered to be occupying the entire province. Such a Fleet should be placed on the coastline rather than completely inland. For example, a Fleet at Spain’s North Coast can’t be ordered to move to the Western Mediterranean or to the Gulf of Lyon or to Marseilles. It is, however, considered to be occupying all of Spain.
F StP (nc) "is considered to be occupying the entire province", "all of" Saint Petersburg. Therefore, it can receive support from a fleet that can move to the other coast.

Re: Gulf of Bothnia support hold StP North Coast?

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 1:11 am
by Red Dingo
Thank you for the replies. Perhaps I'll be a better Russian player in the future.

Re: Gulf of Bothnia support hold StP North Coast?

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:29 am
by Szpoti
JECE wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:05 pm


F StP (nc) "is considered to be occupying the entire province", "all of" Saint Petersburg. Therefore, it can receive support from a fleet that can move to the other coast.
Otherwise, it would be up for debate whether a province possessing two identified coasts could be occupied by two units simultaneously, one at each coast.