Classic Variant 2-7 players

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Classic Variant 2-7 players

#1 Post by Spriithy » Thu Nov 02, 2023 6:47 pm

Good evening everyone !

I'm desperately trying to play the Classic Variat along with a couple friends and filling the game with bots or non-playing countries (just as in backstabbr.com).

Is this possible on webdiplomacy ? If yes, how ?

Thank you very much in advance for your kind replies :)

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Re: Classic Variant 2-7 players

#2 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:42 pm

No, not currently.

WebDip has been implementing bots which can play the game, however it is not currently possible to have a Classic game with a mix of bots and human players.

What you should do is share the game ID and maybe some nice people like me might join it.
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Re: Classic Variant 2-7 players

#3 Post by Aristocrat » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:11 pm

You actually can do this with gunboat games, but not press. You should see an option to "fill with bots" if you select no press in the game creation menu.

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Re: Classic Variant 2-7 players

#4 Post by Esquire Bertissimmo » Fri Nov 03, 2023 5:25 pm

I could pretend to be a bot and let ChatGPT determine my moves and press :)

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Re: Classic Variant 2-7 players

#5 Post by DungDefender » Sat Nov 04, 2023 2:41 am

Unless you cheat by not using a bot. That would be ironic! :)

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Re: Classic Variant 2-7 players

#6 Post by CaptainFritz28 » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:47 pm

Wait...Backstabbr can do that?
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Re: Classic Variant 2-7 players

#7 Post by kestasjk » Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:14 pm

CaptainFritz28 wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:47 pm
Wait...Backstabbr can do that?
Yeah I didn't realize backstabbr had bots at all :|

I am working on the bots but the priority list is:
- Stabilising them, they're still a bit fragile and need to be maintained a few times / week
- Optimising full press to prioritise human messages
- Drop games where the human player has dropped off
- A game cap to stop the bots being saturated
- Get the sleep time between messages better tuned for longer-phase games
- Ability to move the game forward when the human is ready
- A screen to quickly see the bot statuses, whether they are all caught up etc

I think the ability to fill in left over positions / CDs / etc with full press bots should come after those. I could add in the gunboat bots to fill in for non-gunboat games pretty easily, but is that what people are after?

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Re: Classic Variant 2-7 players

#8 Post by Pander Beers » Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:36 am

Isn't what OP is asking for that we have the option for just idle countries in lieu of active players? That's what Backstabbr does, I thought. Not that backstabbr has bots.

If we have 6 players and don't mind if the 7th country is just immediately put into Civil Disorder .. that would be great.

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Re: Classic Variant 2-7 players

#9 Post by burner » Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:53 pm

Pander Beers wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:36 am
Isn't what OP is asking for that we have the option for just idle countries in lieu of active players? That's what Backstabbr does, I thought. Not that backstabbr has bots.

If we have 6 players and don't mind if the 7th country is just immediately put into Civil Disorder .. that would be great.
Personally, I would love it if this were an option. If I had a nickel for every time I tried to join a live game and it cancelled with 6/7 players...

Ironically, I think this feature would actually make people more likely to join live games, because as it stands, if you join a live game there's about a one in a million chance that it will actually start.

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Re: Classic Variant 2-7 players

#10 Post by Pander Beers » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:32 pm

I wish this was a feature that was just a boolean setting during game creation.

"Fill empty player slots with countries in Civil Disorder?" Yes/No - and players can see upon joining

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