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Tyr sea and Gol

#1 Post by VinceK65 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:28 pm

Probably I am not the first one to ask, but isn’t it a mistake that Tyr Sea and Gol are connected in Modern Diplomacy 2? The waters are definitely not connected on the map.

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Re: Tyr sea and Gol

#2 Post by 90kicvesb » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:06 am

I think I see literally one pixel of blue water between the island of Sardinia and the border with Ligurian Sea on the regular map. The adjacency is clearer on the large map.

There is a questionable adjacency between Arctic Ocean and Northwest Territories in Fall of the American Empire IV.
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Re: Tyr sea and Gol

#3 Post by JECE » Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:51 am

Keep in mind that these variants were not invented for webDiplomacy. The original variant author intended those adjacencies, as archived here:

https://diplomacyzines.co.uk/?page_id=6115

https://diplomacyzines.co.uk/?page_id=5573

So webDiplomacy just respects the original game design.
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Re: Tyr sea and Gol

#4 Post by VinceK65 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:45 am

Ok, no problem, but I don’t see the pixel 90kicvesb mentions. I think it’s a mistake in game-design, but I am still happy somebody invented Modern Diplomacy.

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Re: Tyr sea and Gol

#5 Post by VinceK65 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:46 am

On the original map there is a clear opening indeed.

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Re: Tyr sea and Gol

#6 Post by gimix » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:56 am

Sardinia and Corsica do not touch: there's the Strait of Bonifacio (Bocche di Bonifacio) in between, so Tyrrhenian Sea and Gulf of Lyons are connected in reality. However the strait is just 11 kms wide, so on a small map it can be barely visible.
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Re: Tyr sea and Gol

#7 Post by Aristocrat » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:26 pm

JECE wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:51 am
Keep in mind that these variants were not invented for webDiplomacy. The original variant author intended those adjacencies, as archived here:

https://diplomacyzines.co.uk/?page_id=6115

https://diplomacyzines.co.uk/?page_id=5573

So webDiplomacy just respects the original game design.
This is a bit of a tangent and I know not what you were referencing, but WebDip respects the original design except for one key difference. Per your link (and other sources), Russia's setup is supposed to be:

"Russia (R) : A GOR, A MOS, A MUR, F ROS, F STP"

WebDip and VDip have it as F MUR instead of A MUR (from what I believe was a coding error in the initial translation to this site that was never fixed). This swap makes Russia by far the worst country in Modern Dip and by extension boosts all of Russia's neighbors (but most notably Germany and Poland).

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Re: Tyr sea and Gol

#8 Post by JECE » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:07 pm

Aristocrat wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:26 pm
JECE wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:51 am
Keep in mind that these variants were not invented for webDiplomacy. The original variant author intended those adjacencies, as archived here:

https://diplomacyzines.co.uk/?page_id=6115

https://diplomacyzines.co.uk/?page_id=5573

So webDiplomacy just respects the original game design.
This is a bit of a tangent and I know not what you were referencing, but WebDip respects the original design except for one key difference. Per your link (and other sources), Russia's setup is supposed to be:

"Russia (R) : A GOR, A MOS, A MUR, F ROS, F STP"

WebDip and VDip have it as F MUR instead of A MUR (from what I believe was a coding error in the initial translation to this site that was never fixed). This swap makes Russia by far the worst country in Modern Dip and by extension boosts all of Russia's neighbors (but most notably Germany and Poland).
Sounds like you should put in a bug report!
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