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by rdrivera2005
Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:30 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
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Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

I don't know how to clear myself. But think about it. Can a clueless newb fool you this good? Even if coached, can I do it? You guys are expert at this game. Maybe a genius who has played before can do it. Not me. I haven't played before. I have played Avalon about 10 times. The fact that rivera th...
by rdrivera2005
Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:18 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Given this post I can't see ghug killing celaph unless he was JBH's partner. Why not? Celaph was scumreading Ghug. The last part was just to say he can't see scum Ghug with town Chaqa, but he was scumreading both. Precisely because celaph was scumreading ghug. I don't think killing who scumread you...
by rdrivera2005
Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:27 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

I think Chaqa is scum, one of ghug/rdr is scum (leaning ghug atm), and I'm not sure who the third is. ##vote Chaqa I don't think that there is an open and shut case on him, but I have a hard time building a scumteam assuming town Chaqa. Removing Damo, JBH, Chaqa, and myself rdr, ghug, worcej, and e...
by rdrivera2005
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:33 am
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Day 2 voting makes ER problematic. Conclusion The remaining scum pair are Johnny and EMC These are the only pair that explains JBH shot claim N2 AND the celaph NK. They both also failed to vote Chaqa d4. @rdr @ghug @worcej If you disagree please point out the failing in my argument. I think you mak...
by rdrivera2005
Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:38 am
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

I don't know how to clear myself. But think about it. Can a clueless newb fool you this good? Even if coached, can I do it? You guys are expert at this game. Maybe a genius who has played before can do it. Not me. I haven't played before. I have played Avalon about 10 times. The fact that rivera th...
by rdrivera2005
Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:27 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

ghug wrote:
Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:40 pm
rd, assume for a second we're both town. Who's scum?
I would still assume JBH. The other one would be emc probably as I don't think Damo or Worcej are scum.
I can see Damo as scum with you if I am wrong about JBH, but it's really unlikely.
by rdrivera2005
Sun Jun 27, 2021 3:40 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Chaqa loves to bus d1 voted e and w d2 r d3 g d4 w r No votes for me and g. I am town. So probably g is town. I know that's a bit of a stretch but it just adds to my townread of him. I'm gonna ##vote rdrivera Well, at least this time it won't be my fault town loses. If you townread Ghug that bad I ...
by rdrivera2005
Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:00 am
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

This was a unexpected NK. Celahp wasn´t widely townread and neither have strong reads. I guess scum went for good town player, which is inline with the other NKs (Snowy, Xorxes, PE). Which get me back to the question that wasn´t answered since N2. Why scum decide to kill JBH? He wasn´t widele townre...
by rdrivera2005
Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:26 am
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

JBH is almost certainly town. A scum JBH would imply a n3 scum gun. Why would they not just shoot me say. This would throw shade on JBH but give town wriggle room for Chaqa. I'm locktowning JBH If scum use a gun N3 it will be 100% sure one of Chaqa or JBH was lying and we will flip one of them. If ...
by rdrivera2005
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:47 am
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Anyway, now I will have a good dinner and a wine, it was a pretty good day at work and a good night on webdip.
by rdrivera2005
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:46 am
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

I wish the site wouldn't crash at such inopportune moments. Now the question is how many bussers? None - could it be that simple? One - celaph? rdr? Two - hmmm? Yey, one down and we are still in the game. I am starting to feel good about town chances for the first time after D2. And I think the asn...
by rdrivera2005
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:43 am
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

A couple of thoughts on the voting: Chaqa didn't vote for rdr today until I pressed him on it, despite the fact that he supposedly scumread him for days and it was the leading counterwagon to his own kill. The JBH move to celaph feels like he wasn't trying to protect Chaqa. If they were scum togeth...
by rdrivera2005
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:39 am
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

I wish the site wouldn't crash at such inopportune moments. Now the question is how many bussers? None - could it be that simple? One - celaph? rdr? Two - hmmm? Yey, one down and we are still in the game. I am starting to feel good about town chances for the first time after D2. And I think the asn...
by rdrivera2005
Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:20 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

And I've seen way too many people pull this low effort BS as scum. Since Durga doesn't play anymore, she is the queen of this BS - anytime Durga does low effort playing, she was scum. We've also seen Chaqa do the same *UNLESS* he was in a position to take the crown for his team, then he pulls off s...
by rdrivera2005
Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:17 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Would rdr bus him and shade him that much as scum? I haven't seen him multi-phase bus anyone like this before (as far as I can recall). I also follow his reasoning for the case against Chaqa and agree with it. It's not that multi phase. He decided to scumread Chaqa right about this time D3. And whi...
by rdrivera2005
Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:10 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

I'm one of the two people in this game who actually care about figuring it out right now. Scumreading me is absurd. Who is the other one trying to figure it out to you? I would say there are only 3 people not trying (emc, Chaqa, celaph [though some posts now show some sign of trying]) who are tryin...
by rdrivera2005
Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:19 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

I'm one of the two people in this game who actually care about figuring it out right now. Scumreading me is absurd. Why, because you keep saying obvious things and play in a cautious way? Or beucase you are basing your vote on POE and because "rd like to bus". This looks like a perfect way to justi...
by rdrivera2005
Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:33 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:08 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:04 pm
Einstein!

Speak.
One and half more page...
If you let Ghug and Chaqa miskill me by not entering a valid vote I will be really upset with you.
I kinda like being the counterwagon to Chaqa as I don´t risk starting to second guess myself.
by rdrivera2005
Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:07 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

I keep crossposting with Damo, lol.
by rdrivera2005
Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:05 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Replies: 2920
Views: 16661

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Your entire theory is based off of one vote, of me moving to vote for someone who I had been scumreading, and saying it isn't organic?? I'm sorry, it just doesn't make any sense. Yeah, rd feels very inauthentic here. My problem, though, is that it just makes way more sense as a bus. I'm trying to i...