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by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:48 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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What you're saying is what I mean by "natural" - digging through the game and using the data to get a result. I think an analytically driven conclusion is natural. I was trying to say that I think bozo picked groups of people first, then looked for reasons to connect them - hence going "backwards."...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:32 pm
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Yes, this is possible, but I missed Vecna's claim, so I do not think it was as obvious as you and kgray made it out to be. I have included you with kgray and summit more by POE than anything else. What do you think of kgray not following through with voting for summit after summit became a more via...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:29 pm
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Why would you prefer someone go with a "natural" conclusion - i.e. not an analytically driven conclusion - as opposed to digging through the game and reading for the threads that tie people together? What you're saying is what I mean by "natural" - digging through the game and using the data to get...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:24 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

What you're saying is what I mean by "natural" - digging through the game and using the data to get a result. I think an analytically driven conclusion is natural. I was trying to say that I think bozo picked groups of people first, then looked for reasons to connect them - hence going "backwards."...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:10 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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I don't see why HR/bo/Jamie couldn't have been pretending not to see the claim. I was very hung up on Jamie overlooking it but maybe it doesn't make sense for him to have been so insistent about that as scum. I can see zero reasons why scum!HR and scum!bo couldn't have reacted the way they did. The...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:09 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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I scumread most people that intentionally vote after the deadline, and I've been pretty ready to scumread you throughout most of this game. I don't have some grandiose case if that's what you're looking for. Bozo's analysis of you, summit, and kgray isn't totally crazy; it certainly isn't half as c...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:07 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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I don't know, I keep going back and forth too. The effort seems towny on the surface, but I do think he's starting with a potential scumteam (or partners) and going backwards, looking for reasons to connect them, rather than drawing a "natural" conclusion from what's happened. But also, he's been d...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:03 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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Yes, this is possible, but I missed Vecna's claim, so I do not think it was as obvious as you and kgray made it out to be. I have included you with kgray and summit more by POE than anything else. What do you think of kgray not following through with voting for summit after summit became a more via...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:00 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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OK, it still seems like a strong reaction. I don't think it is at all. It was an objectively terrible plan. To think it's a good idea, you'd have to think that zero members of the scumteam would check the game between when Jamie said it and when we could get enough end votes, not to mention the fac...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:59 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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The scum would be reading Vecna's posts knowing he is the BP, so they would be more likely to pick up on his claim. At first I thought it was likely someone was pretending to miss Vecna's claim, but I missed it, so maybe not. It is a connection between you, kgray, and summit. You said earlier in D2...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:50 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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The scum would be reading Vecna's posts knowing he is the BP, so they would be more likely to pick up on his claim. At first I thought it was likely someone was pretending to miss Vecna's claim, but I missed it, so maybe not. It is a connection between you, kgray, and summit. Agree that there is on...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:45 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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I've made my suspicions of Bozo very clear today. Aren't you reading my posts? I am, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but the two main reasons you gave are his inactivity prior to today, which I agree is scummy from bozo, and his focus on "odd interactions" between you and HB. I do agree with hi...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:42 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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Here is where the kgray/rdrivera D1 mutual voting began. It probably should be obvious enough that at least the second part of rdrivera's post was a joke that kgray should not need to ask. It was very obvious that the second part of the post was a joke. That's why I asked if the whole post was a jo...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:38 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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This post probably means Jamie is town if summit is mafia. That would mean kgray/summit/rdrivera is the most likely scum team if kgray changed her mind about voting for summit D2 because they are both mafia. I don't see how this makes Jamie town if summit is mafia. Why do you think scum!summit woul...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:37 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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I looked into the discussion of Vecna's BP claim, and it seems like kgray, summit, and rdrivera were all aware of the claim fairly early. kgray was questioning players for not seeing the claim, rdrivera called it obvious without the link, and summit was the first to directly state Vecna had claimed...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:32 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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Bozo, you don’t have me entirely convinced but I just want to say you really should have led with the investigative track you’re on now as opposed to whatever it was you were doing earlier. You’re asking much better questions. I am convinced on rdrivera and could vote him today over HB. You are con...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:29 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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Why scum would be looking for Vecna to claim as they already knew he is BP? Also, don't you believe scum is more likely to avoid looking like they already know Vecna is BP? At least one? Okay rivera, now you can be my spokesperson. Do you think Bozo twisting things and making this bullshit assumpti...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:43 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

I looked into the discussion of Vecna's BP claim, and it seems like kgray, summit, and rdrivera were all aware of the claim fairly early. kgray was questioning players for not seeing the claim, rdrivera called it obvious without the link, and summit was the first to directly state Vecna had claimed...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:41 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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My scumpool right now: bozotheclown Hamilton Brian Macca573 summit_fever Why is bozo in your scumpool? I've made my suspicions of Bozo very clear today. Aren't you reading my posts? I am, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but the two main reasons you gave are his inactivity prior to today, which ...
by kgray
Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:32 pm
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Topic: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros
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Views: 41122

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This idea isn't bad, but I doubt we get six votes before one scum can cast a vote on the Mafia QT. By the way, scum team is Bo, Damo and who else? Is this whole post a joke? You can't really think the scumteam includes Bo and Damo while also pointing out the obvious flaw in Jamie's plan but still c...