It's hard to keep track of each person, sorry if I strawmanned you. But isn't the larger point of 2 is that it's impossible for 7 to appear in even numbers, so no infinite set of even numbers will ever result in it. Correlating that to "the universe being infinite won't necessarily produce a God if ...

Ok
To clarify and make sure I'm not strawmanning you.

Do you believe the universe is meaningless?

I just told you, didn't I? If you can prove a cause and effect relationship, that we can interact with "God" and change something here...and there is no other physical explanation. Would something like this be the stuff you're looking for? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3393937/ Sure though there ...

There is nothing mysterious to me about a word that has no meaning. It has no relevance to the universe that I inhabit. You misunderstood my point. How do you get from your daily observations to any hypothesis at all that has anything to do with gods? Are you a nihilist then? I admit nihilism is in...

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There's no positive evidence for non-spaghetti gods either.

Ok I'll ask what I asked Flash.

What's a specific positive evidence you'd want that would make you consider? The more specific the better.

even though it's true we can never be 100% certain on anything. I am 100% certain that gods don't exist. I do not, however, expect everyone else to come to that same conclusion. The scientific method was originally created by religious people, so it's not really an alternative view. I do agree it c...

I just told you, didn't I? If you can prove a cause and effect relationship, that we can interact with "God" and change something here...and there is no other physical explanation. Would something like this be the stuff you're looking for? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3393937/ I'm not asking you...

We could investigate the power of prayer, but real talk, if there is a noticeable effect would that actually change your mind? There are a lot of non-religious people who believe global consciousness affects the world around us, and there are many possible theories for prayer working that don't rely...

I think one reason I find atheistic arguments so un-compelling is they are always tearing down other beliefs but they don't ever actually have any beliefs of their own they're willing to share. (And the few who do share, their beliefs are torn down usually just as easily.) If you're ever interested...

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I think one reason I find atheistic arguments so un-compelling is they are always tearing down other beliefs but they don't ever actually have any beliefs of their own they're willing to share. (And the few who do share, their beliefs are torn down usually just as easily.) If you're ever interested ...

"God is impossible" is radically different from "God doesn't exist". If you don't see that I'm not sure where to go from there. Compare "There is not a flying spaghetti monster" to "A flying spaghetti monster is impossible" Compare "There is a chicken" to "There is definitely a chicken". ?? I don't...

This is, hilariously, way more relevant to the discussion than it should be. :lol: Lol, well it's in the definition. My definition of the universe is literally everything. So technically God would be a part of the universe and it's essentially the universe creating itself. But it only makes sense t...

I can't imagine a universe without God. Everything breaks down if the universe created itself or always existed in a temporal bubble. (And anything outside of time is eternal and basically God) If you don't think it is possible for the Universe to have either created itself somehow, or always have ...

snip There are a few problems with that. The first is that if you assume a finite number of universes, typically 1, then it falls down. God needs to exist at the beginning to qualify as God, so even if the universe lasts forever there's just the single event at which God has to be. No amount of ima...

That is rough. Honestly, if I was a woman I'd be a lesbian too, and I have mad respect for you not compromising on your type and still shooting your shots, even as society tries to make it a taboo. I know a lot of men who wouldn't have the balls to do that in your position. I do agree we shouldn't b...

Does this make it illegal to tell a kid that their mom gave birth to them?

1. If the egg had a beginning, something outside of the egg triggered it. 2. The non-egg thing is by all practical purposes a God. 3. Therefore God is a chicken. Almost there, do that with the chicken now and keep working your way up. 1. If it cannot hatch from its shell, the chick will die without...

1. If the universe always existed, everything possible has happened. 2. It is possible God exists. 3. Therefore God has happened. Checkmate atheists. (alternate if you don't believe premise 1) 1. If the universe had a beginning, something outside of time triggered it. 2. The atemporal thing is by al...

For the record, if there was an everlasting hellfire torture chamber waiting for us in the afterlife, I actually do agree there is no way to justify the suffering of this world with an all-loving God.