1. I believe in a god who's the perfect summation of existence. There can only be one distinct perfect thing. 2. Because it's fun to try to figure this stuff out as a hobby. Not a whole lot else going on in this forum, and politics is way too depressing right now. 3. If it was easy, this debate woul...

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Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:53 pm

What sort of consciousness or agency do you need to go KA-BOOM?

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1. If I'm correct that you were talking about the Christian notion of God in your OP, why did you criticise me for correctly making that assumption? 2. If (a) he is kind and loving, and (b) believing in him is the only way to be saved from damnation, then surely he would want me to believe? 1. You ...

Baptism is one of the hottest points of division among Christian sects on what it means exactly. Good luck understanding that one.

Okay, I've read much but not all of the thread. Can I ask learnedSloth or Octavious or Fluminator to educate me on a few things? In your belief system are these true? 1. Original sin is inherent in us when we are born stemming from our original ancestors not following God's will. 2. We cannot get r...

Haha, I wouldn't make this thread if I didn't enjoy these discussions. I agree there are three distinct things when talking about Christianity 1. Is there a God 2. Does God have the attributes of the Judeo-Christian God 3. Is this God worth worshipping And each one is a very separate issue. There's...

I'm not ignoring you Kalel, I'll get to you soon. 1. Satan the deceiver, who was created by God the omnipotent in order to more efficiently trick sinners into getting banished to the eternal fires of Hell. Ring a bell? 2. Humbug. You are the spawn of Satan, your parents' kid and Satan Himself, all t...

My final answers to your questions respectfully are 1. Correct 2. Even if God cared about you, why is it necessary he has you believe him? 1. If I'm correct that you were talking about the Christian notion of God in your OP, why did you criticise me for correctly making that assumption? 2. If (a) h...

1. Satan the deceiver, who was created by God the omnipotent in order to more efficiently trick sinners into getting banished to the eternal fires of Hell. Ring a bell? 2. Humbug. You are the spawn of Satan, your parents' kid and Satan Himself, all three at the same time. There is no contradiction....

I'm abandoning this discussion with you. I did not start by arguing for the Christian God. The first post is any God and later occasionally into a monotheistic God. You keep bringing the Christian God into this. It's really hard to believe your[sic] not arguing in bad faith right now. I'm not aband...

http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FAQ43.html Going through some of these and it's kind of weird. 1. They're claiming evolution would require miracles in the same line they're saying evolution doesn't require miracles. Which is it? If it's the former then there's no difference as far as mira...

To convince me I'm a spawn of Satan I'd need:
1. To get a more specific definition of Satan
2. Evidence that I am not my parent's kids and came from another source
3. Evidence that this other source is rooted in black magic occultism

I don't think Christians have anything to fear about evolution http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FAQ43.html Going through some of these and it's kind of weird. 1. They're claiming evolution would require miracles in the same line they're saying evolution doesn't require miracles. Which is i...

If God is real, WHY ARE WE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE HE COULD JUST FUCKING PROVE IT ANY TIME HE LIKES, FOR FUCK'S SAKE You claim God is all-powerful, yet he can't even convince me he is possible. Pretty shit, then. Why would God care what you think? Not a compelling argument to me. If there ...

I'm abandoning this discussion with you. I did not start by arguing for the Christian God. The first post is any God and later occasionally into a monotheistic God. You keep bringing the Christian God into this. It's really hard to believe your not arguing in bad faith right now. I'm not abandoning ...

Can we remove Christianity from the equation, and replace the term "God" with "Higher Power" for now? Would miraculous events help sway you to believe there's a higher power? Would you be open to advanced aliens existing within the universe? Would you be open to things many people describe as "spiri...

There's no positive evidence for it though, so I don't entertain it. Ok but you did not back up the pretty radical claim God is Impossible, so I'm content continuing to assume God is possible. You haven't backed up your radical claim either, other than demanding that other people should provide irr...

@Fluminator: If you still want more from me on why suffering is bad, I have been reflecting on how to explain it to you. I think that suffering is bad because I have experienced it, and I have some evidence to suggest to me that others experience suffering as a bad thing also. I know that when some...

Haha, I wouldn't make this thread if I didn't enjoy these discussions. I agree there are three distinct things when talking about Christianity 1. Is there a God 2. Does God have the attributes of the Judeo-Christian God 3. Is this God worth worshipping And each one is a very separate issue. There's ...

It reminds me of creationists poking holes at evolution. Completely unconvincing unless they give a better scientific alternative to evolution. I have recently read about the hydroplate theory on http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/IntheBeginningTOC.html It's sort of hard to talk about someth...