It seems a big part of the whole Christian thing. I know you're not a Christian but as an atheist we regularly have to put up with Christians warning us we'll go to hell. To be fair to the Christians telling you that, if they actually believe you're going to be burning in hell for eternity, it make...

Why are you all always so desperate to link God with hell lol. Are you afraid to face the idea of God on its own so you bring in hell to make it easier to argue against? It seems a big part of the whole Christian thing. I know you're not a Christian but as an atheist we regularly have to put up wit...

A more vivid way of showing the utter pointlessness of this argument is: If we accept the premise that "everything that can possibly happen has happened" then I posit the following must have happened: There was a god, who was foolish and created artificial intelligence which soon surpassed god's ow...

Why are you all always so desperate to link God with hell lol. Are you afraid to face the idea of God on its own so you bring in hell to make it easier to argue against?

A more vivid way of showing the utter pointlessness of this argument is: If we accept the premise that "everything that can possibly happen has happened" then I posit the following must have happened: There was a god, who was foolish and created artificial intelligence which soon surpassed god's ow...

Either he has chosen not to reveal himself to me, or he is not omnipotent, or he does not exist. In what way would it be advantageous to God for you to know He exists? There must be the possibility of doubt for faith to have any meaning. There has to be the possibility of God's non existence for hu...

Aha, Fluminator is back from his November holidays and this thread has come back to life. So, premise (b) of my above statement. Well, this actually assumes quite a few things, such that: 1. God exists, 2. God is omnipotent and omniscient, 3. God loves me, 4. God is aware I do not believe he exists...

I'm not American so I'm sorry if I offend any Americans here, but wow the vote counting is the biggest train-wreck ever? How is it so bad?

But I will answer the question now that I have seen it asked: If an omnipotent / omniscient God existed, he would know what he needed to do to change my mind, and he would easily be capable of doing it. To date, either (a) he does not exist, or (b) he has not done it. If it's B, is there anything e...

In the Silmarillion, Tolkien definitely viewed some races or groups of elves/humans as better than others. It wasn't necessarily a parallel to real world racism, but his worldview framework was very much "some groups are intrinsically better than others"

I could have sworn I asked you that, but it turns out I mixed you up with Jece.
Sorry
I guess that sort of undermines a lot of my entire annoyance post about you.

One of the most telling pieces in a debate is the answer to "What would change your mind?" In the Ken Ham vs. Bill Nye creation debate they were asked that. Ken Ham responded saying nothing would change his mind. Bill Nye responded with a pretty detailed list of things he'd need to see in the genome...

It's extremely dangerous to have a view on something that nothing would ever hypothetically change your mind on. That's called faith. It's the very problem that many atheists, including me, are most concerned about. I do get that many religious people try to characterize atheism as a religion and c...

To summarize my discussion with Jamiet - Makes statements such as "it is impossible God exists" without giving any reasons why he believes that. - Refusal to give anything that would hypothetically change his mind even when directly asked. It's extremely dangerous to have a view on something that no...

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:57 pm

Fluminator wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:24 am

I feel like I've specified what I believe the nature of God is many times.

Sigh.

I'm sorry but I don't think you have. Or, you have repeatedly specified something utterly meaningless and unintelligible to me.

Lol ok

I feel like I've specified what I believe the nature of God is many times.

Fluminator, Origenism was condemned by the ecumenical synods (he was not excommunicated though because he had died before the synod), and Augustine's opinion was treated as such until very later when Catholic Church found it useful to sell forgiveness for a price. East Orthodox Church, while holdin...

Could you imagine a square circle?

God can't create a rock so big it can't be moved.
God couldn't create a married bachelor.
God couldn't create a limited perfect being.

If those things result in God not being omnipotent, then no, God isn't omnipotent.

You do realize there are other religions outside of Christianity right? Just confirming lol.
(@Jamiet)

I'm surprised you find it so bizarre someone could believe in God and not be a Christian.