Search found 6317 matches

by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:00 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

I agree we should not worry about the jester. Although, it would be better for town if the mafia wasted a NK on him. Mechanical analysis king Bozo would recognize there's no world where jester gets night-killed. The only way Jester loses is by being night killed, basically, and any competent Jester...
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:49 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

I still think the best thing for today would be for the Jester to claim and let us flip them, so that they get an immediate win and the mafia loses a potential partner. This way we don't lose a town on Day 1. While still limiting the field of cop scans and doc saves. While also guaranteeing us one e...
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:48 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Okay, here's where I'm at based on reads alone, which were all explained in the string of quote-replied I just got finished writing up: Town Snowy Vecna Hamilton Scum Bob ghug Null Bozo (lean town) Damo (lean town) Dargo Food Johnny Rivera Earlier I posted this: I believe there to be at least 2 scum...
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:35 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Sorry, I ran through the math on my own and didn't explain it in the thread, but I'll go back over it now. Game starts at 8-3-1 spread on day 1. Mafia has no incentive to nightkill the jester. We have two lines: 1. Leave the jester alive 2. Kill the jester today If we follow Line 1, assuming miskil...
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:34 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

I think the math checks out that killing the Jester day 1 is good. We ideally want to hit mafia, but the Jester makes endgame math and motivations fuzzy. ##Vote ghug for now on the basis he is the Jester I mean I am the jester but that's why you shouldn't kill me . Hoping the jester dies is fine. N...
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:32 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

damo666 wrote:
Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:39 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:25 am
I believe there to be at least 2 scum in the group:

Johnny
Hamilton
Vecna
Dargo

I will explain why later in the day phase.
Is it later yet?
Indeed it is. Working my way there.
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:31 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

I agree we should not worry about the jester. Although, it would be better for town if the mafia wasted a NK on him. They’re more likely to hit one of us though, right? I think I’d like going into N1 as 8-3 as opposed to 7-3-1? Yes, but the mafia could hit the jester, and we do not know who the jes...
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:30 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

damo666 wrote:
Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:23 pm
Chaqa is presumably not the Jester.

From a tpov chance of Chaqa being scum is 3/10 whereas chance of any non-Chaqa being scum is 3/11.

Perhaps we should therefore vote Chaqa.

Is this sound?
This seems like a pretty standard faire damo post. NAI.
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:29 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

i want to propose a revolutionary new idea what if we tried to catch scum today? instead of trying specifically to catch the jester, we try to catch scum, and if we happen to hit the jester thats just a bonus...ish...kinda Bob scum. Any town would see the math of this situation and agree that getti...
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:29 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Has it occurred to you logical folk that ghug is not guaranteed or even likely to be scum? I suggest we table this discussion until ghug has an opportunity to further comment on this matter. I am willing to agree on principle that a guaranteed jester vote today is the best move, if they are willing...
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:28 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Generally I don't worry overmuch about accidentally jestering day 1. Good on them if they did, but I think pure min/max it's better to try to properly vote out scum than carefully avoid type II errors, and ending up voting out town. Killing jester day1 might actually be not such a terrible side eff...
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:27 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Well, of course: I don’t want to vote for the Jester. And I brought up this conversation because you suggested darg might be the third party. But perhaps that was… in… jest? Generally I don't worry overmuch about accidentally jestering day 1. Good on them if they did, but I think pure min/max it's ...
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:14 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

damo666 wrote:
Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:23 pm
Chaqa is presumably not the Jester.

From a tpov chance of Chaqa being scum is 3/10 whereas chance of any non-Chaqa being scum is 3/11.

Perhaps we should therefore vote Chaqa.

Is this sound?
lmao
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:13 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:15 pm
also i am very thankful that whoever rolled jester was smart enough to read the bit of the rules where it said jester loses if they claim, because some people clearly didnt, or are at least pretending they didnt
There is no such rule
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:06 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

i want to propose a revolutionary new idea what if we tried to catch scum today? instead of trying specifically to catch the jester, we try to catch scum, and if we happen to hit the jester thats just a bonus...ish...kinda Bob scum. Any town would see the math of this situation and agree that getti...
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:00 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:59 pm
chaqa your plan would be great if jester was allowed to claim in the rules
also since when do you do maths?
Huh?
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:55 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Sorry, I ran through the math on my own and didn't explain it in the thread, but I'll go back over it now. Game starts at 8-3-1 spread on day 1. Mafia has no incentive to nightkill the jester. We have two lines: 1. Leave the jester alive 2. Kill the jester today If we follow Line 1, assuming miskill...
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:46 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:44 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:40 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:28 pm


Can you expand why you think he's the jester?
He said he is
And you’re willing to take him at his word?

If that’s the case, he’s the last one we should wagon right now, right?
See above

The math is pretty easy to work out as well
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:40 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Vecna wrote:
Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:28 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:06 pm
I think the math checks out that killing the Jester day 1 is good. We ideally want to hit mafia, but the Jester makes endgame math and motivations fuzzy.

##Vote ghug

for now on the basis he is the Jester
Can you expand why you think he's the jester?
He said he is
by Chaqa
Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:40 pm
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]
Replies: 987
Views: 4967

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

I think the math checks out that killing the Jester day 1 is good. We ideally want to hit mafia, but the Jester makes endgame math and motivations fuzzy. ##Vote ghug for now on the basis he is the Jester What makes you base that ghug is Jester? His claim? Or is there more you read into his comments...