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by Octavious
Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:12 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban
Replies: 83
Views: 1922

Re: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban

I remember how consistent you have been on this...how much you complained when Pompeo and Trump were openly making deals with the Taliban last year. Oh wait... I judge on actions. It could well be that Trump would have been just as big a failure here as Biden has been, but we will never know. It is...
by Octavious
Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:26 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban
Replies: 83
Views: 1922

Re: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban

Unlike the Vietnam Conflict, the "Korean War," and the fighting with the Indians, the Afghanistan War was legally granted by the US Congress as a war. Sorry, managed to miss this reply. So what you're saying is that it is defined as the "longest war" because of a bit of legalese used by the US Cong...
by Octavious
Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:07 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban
Replies: 83
Views: 1922

Re: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban

@Octavious, generally yes, words are defined by usage, but when it comes to people, what you use to describe them, and how the describe themselves is something worth thinking about. Why, though? If the French want to call me Anglais or the Germans an Engländer then what's the problem? I dare say th...
by Octavious
Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:28 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban
Replies: 83
Views: 1922

Re: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban

Afghani has been used to mean people of Afghanistan for a rather long time in various parts of the world. Afghans may be more common, but as Afghani is both clear in meaning and utterly inoffensive I don't see why there's any need to try and correct it.
by Octavious
Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:57 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban
Replies: 83
Views: 1922

Re: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban

Democratically elected governments don't always result in the people making good choices and some remain in power without having another election that would remove them. Hitler, Abbas of the Palestinian Authority, and Hamas were all election winners with the last two never allowing another vote. Tr...
by Octavious
Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:07 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban
Replies: 83
Views: 1922

Re: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban

Do we, though? The reality of the civil war in the Colonies is that it was led by a criminal elite determined to feather their nests, and sponsored by a foreign power who were only interested in trying to destabilise Britain. I have never seen anything to suggest it was democratically legitimate.
by Octavious
Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:30 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban
Replies: 83
Views: 1922

Re: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban

I look forward to seeing you support the return of the colonies to the House of Windsor. Self-determination. Americans wanted independence, so the American government is legitimate. Likewise, Afghans chose to have the Taliban as their government, so the Taliban is their legitimate government. Gover...
by Octavious
Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:37 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban
Replies: 83
Views: 1922

Re: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban

The US is entering a Civil War with an us (Trump supporter) versus them (all others that don't support Trump). Much like the last Civil War, you have two sides that can't agree and are blocking the other side's agenda. Instead of resolving this with discussions and voting, you are having the Trump ...
by Octavious
Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:27 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban
Replies: 83
Views: 1922

Re: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban

In what sense are you defining it as a war, out of interest?
by Octavious
Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:23 pm
Forum: Development
Topic: Cookies; accept or deny
Replies: 15
Views: 980

Re: Cookies; accept or deny

I blame Socialism (and the removal of PPSC)...

... and the French ...
by Octavious
Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:26 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: Freedom!
Replies: 47
Views: 2204

Re: Freedom!

Ah, bit of a cock-up on the public relations front. That's a tad unfortunate.
by Octavious
Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:43 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: Freedom!
Replies: 47
Views: 2204

Re: Freedom!

What AZ shit?
by Octavious
Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:16 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: Freedom!
Replies: 47
Views: 2204

Re: Freedom!

You'll be old enough to remember thalidomide too, then. And from what I recall the whooping cough vaccine of the 70s/80s had an unfortunate reputation for neurological complications, which is why that formulation is no longer in use. These are not, and never have been, black and white issues.
by Octavious
Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:10 am
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: Freedom!
Replies: 47
Views: 2204

Re: Freedom!

What is undeniable, be it in Australia or elsewhere and regardless of how well Covid-19 has been handled, is that some of the Covid-19 measures brought in have not only been utterly unnecessary, but in some cases actively harmful. https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/rescue-dogs-shot-dead-by-nsw-coun...
by Octavious
Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:05 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: Freedom!
Replies: 47
Views: 2204

Re: Freedom!

Sorry. Forgot the "USA! USA! USA!" Happier? Never had you down as joining the USA chanting Yanks. I always felt you were better suited to the cream cheese bagel, angry jogger, and chiwawas in a sling fraternity ;) What about angry walker?? And I don't even own a dog, you insensitive clod! It's inev...
by Octavious
Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:47 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban
Replies: 83
Views: 1922

Re: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban

Seventy Thousand Deaths The Afghan army was only around 200,000 strong. If any force takes those kind of losses it will struggle to hold. As Tugendhat said in his excellent speech I posted here on Wednesday: "Those who have never fought for the colours they fly should be careful about criticising th...
by Octavious
Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:20 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban
Replies: 83
Views: 1922

Re: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban

Ora, 70,000 Afghan military servicemen have died fighting the Taliban. Let's not rubbish their sacrifice with bloody stupid comments dismissing them as glorified mercs I see you haven't bothered addressing any of the points raised. But nice try. You first point was that the Afghan military acted li...
by Octavious
Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:53 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: Freedom!
Replies: 47
Views: 2204

Re: Freedom!

flash2015 wrote:
Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:42 pm
Sorry. Forgot the "USA! USA! USA!"

Happier?
Never had you down as joining the USA chanting Yanks. I always felt you were better suited to the cream cheese bagel, angry jogger, and chiwawas in a sling fraternity ;)
by Octavious
Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:45 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: Freedom!
Replies: 47
Views: 2204

Re: Freedom!

The Australian strategy has largely been a success. The only obvious drawback being an initially slow vaccination rate which, considering that vaccination is the only way back to normality, is a little baffling. Still, they now seem fairly well on their way to getting to the level of vaccination req...
by Octavious
Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:28 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban
Replies: 83
Views: 1922

Re: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban

Ora, 70,000 Afghan military servicemen have died fighting the Taliban. Let's not rubbish their sacrifice with bloody stupid comments dismissing them as glorified mercs