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by jay65536
Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:28 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: Just convoy around
Replies: 7
Views: 2076

Re: Just convoy around

While others here are more familiar with the interface than I am, the actual rules (the 2000 edition, which is most recent) are extremely subtle here. To the OP’s example, if you have an army you wish to swap, and it is your own fleet doing the convoying, you can just issue the order. When it is you...
by jay65536
Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:27 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: Soloing as Italy
Replies: 41
Views: 7901

Re: Soloing as Italy

http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/strategy/articles/lapland_lurch.htm Other than the last sentence, this sums up my views. GoB is correct the vast majority of the time but there exist circumstances where Fin is valid. Still an extreme fringe case. (Note: I don’t play gunboat so can’t speak ...
by jay65536
Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:52 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: Soloing as Italy
Replies: 41
Views: 7901

Re: Soloing as Italy

No. Those are not on the same level. Your belief that Kie-Den is automatic is a belief; that belief is not shared by many Diplomacy players, including but not limited to me. Con-Bul is the most automatic move in the game. In my opinion, it goes: 1. Con-Bul. There is no valid alternative. 2. StP-GoB....
by jay65536
Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:13 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: Soloing as Italy
Replies: 41
Views: 7901

Re: Soloing as Italy

Turkey has at least 4 openings that make sense—possibly more if you don’t group together equivalent sets of moves.
by jay65536
Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:04 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: Slingshot Juggernaut
Replies: 4
Views: 3321

Re: Slingshot Juggernaut

Russia builds an army somewhere else, not Sev. The exact builds are dependent on Russia’s other diplomacy. Arm can be convoyed anywhere. The most common is to convoy to Bul while Bul moves to Ser with support from Rum. This could theoretically be stopped but the point is to fool Austria into not bei...
by jay65536
Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:19 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: Gunboat Stats
Replies: 21
Views: 4708

Re: Gunboat Stats

Again, I don’t play gunboat, and I personally have never played this opening. I’m just pointing out that it’s not strictly inferior to a different opening—it’s for German players who want to keep Munich occupied and Kiel open. Whether you want to do that in gunboat is beyond my ability to answer wit...
by jay65536
Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:53 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: Gunboat Stats
Replies: 21
Views: 4708

Re: Gunboat Stats

Indeed. My initial thought was that Germany was gunning for Burgundy, but that's so much worse than Holland that it can't be right. I guess this opening makes sense in a meta where France would sometimes go for Ruhr in Autumn? It discourages that move. Otherwise I can't make much sense of it. I don...
by jay65536
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:12 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: How often do games draw?
Replies: 76
Views: 11290

Re: How often do games draw?

I'd be interested in hearing your suggestions for alternate scoring systems that eliminate draw-whittling without changing the other incentives that DSS does a good job creating—encouraging solos and discouraging focus on how many centers you have in a draw. I don't have time for a long reply right...
by jay65536
Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:26 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: All Diplomacy Scoring Stinks
Replies: 81
Views: 14114

Re: All Diplomacy Scoring Stinks

The WDC system was not strictly center-based. It was very close but not quite. And it was non-zero-sum. I think it was something like: -Loss before (or at) 1910 is worth one-tenth of a point per year survived. -Draw at 1910 is worth 1 point per center plus a flat 3 extra points. -Board top is worth ...
by jay65536
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:21 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: How Do We Feel About Not Even Trying to Win?
Replies: 139
Views: 19673

Re: How Do We Feel About Not Even Trying to Win?

The idea that a well-played game should usually end in a 2way is ludicrous. It happens sometimes, but I’d say that most games (played with draw-based scoring) that are well-played will end in a 3way, a solo, or a 4way. 2ways should be rare.
by jay65536
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:21 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: Elimination Conditions
Replies: 8
Views: 5982

Re: Elimination Conditions

I will note that the language about "still having units on the board" to be allowed to participate in a draw is probably antiquated. In older versions of the rules, the victory criterion was listed as 18 units, not 18 centers. That is a potentially big difference, and it was changed. Similarly, I ha...
by jay65536
Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:29 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: How Do We Feel About Not Even Trying to Win?
Replies: 139
Views: 19673

Re: How Do We Feel About Not Even Trying to Win?

So instead of going down the poker rabbit hole about what exactly “soft play” means, I’ll just remark to the OP what I said originally: all you can do is to understand the mentality of these drawmongers so that you can beat them over the board. There is nothing unethical, in Diplomacy ethics, about ...
by jay65536
Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:46 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: How Do We Feel About Not Even Trying to Win?
Replies: 139
Views: 19673

Re: How Do We Feel About Not Even Trying to Win?

Jay: my poker analogy isn't about bad players. I agree, you can't complain about bad play, you just have to beat it. My poker analogy was about soft-playing or chip-dumping -- an agreement for one player to take it easy on another, or to lose on purpose to another -- both of which are illegal in po...
by jay65536
Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:54 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: How Do We Feel About Not Even Trying to Win?
Replies: 139
Views: 19673

Re: How Do We Feel About Not Even Trying to Win?

OP has gotten some good perspectives so far but I’ll add mine because like the OP, I am a serious poker player (though I’ve been a serious Diplomacy player for longer). To the OP: I would say you’re looking at this wrong from a “mental game” perspective. In both poker and Diplomacy, when someone is ...
by jay65536
Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:56 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: Elimination Conditions
Replies: 8
Views: 5982

Re: Elimination Conditions

This is a controversial topic and you are likely to get some disagreement.

I for one believe that having no units on the board while also not owning any of your own home centers should count as an elimination.
by jay65536
Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:28 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 62
Views: 15261

Re: Two Tier Scoring

For anyone who may have been interested, the original article has been revised.
by jay65536
Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:12 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: Theory/strategy books?
Replies: 4
Views: 4078

Re: Theory/strategy books?

Mostly articles, not books. Diplomatic Pouch has some good stuff. diplomacy-archive.com is good too. It also contains the only full-length strategy book I know of: The Game of Diplomacy, by Richard Sharp. But unlike a game such as chess, most expert players will not follow the texts to the letter (t...
by jay65536
Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:30 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: Rules Resolution Question
Replies: 9
Views: 4482

Re: Rules Resolution Question

Not sure why this is counterintuitive. You moved out of the Black Sea. When you order your unit to leave a space and it succeeds, the unit doesn't defend the space it left. Any unit is free to follow behind it. The fleet moving from Sev is different because--intuitively--it "ran into" the attacking ...
by jay65536
Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:01 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: Convoy conundrum...
Replies: 21
Views: 6052

Re: Convoy conundrum...

The actual rule from the rulebook is as follows: " A convoyed Army does not cut the support of a unit supporting an attack against one of the Fleets necessary of the Army to convoy. This is a tricky and rare situation, but without this rule (Using Diagram 30 as an example), a paradox may occur." No...
by jay65536
Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:49 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Advice
Topic: Convoy conundrum...
Replies: 21
Views: 6052

Re: Convoy conundrum...

Not a paradox. There is a specific rule that covers this. The support is not cut, and the convoy fails. It would be a paradox if there were two other fleets, such as Den and Hol, that were also attacking Nth. In that case, a ruling that the convoy fails means the fleet should not be dislodged, but r...