They have a fun little collection of shrunken heads in Pitt Rivers in Oxford. Have to keep them them hidden away now, of course. Political correctness and all that. All that aside, good on you for giving it a go. You planning on charging back into the breach any time soon or taking a break for a whi...

Off on a slight tangent on the original theme, but rather fun so I couldn't resist posting

https://youtu.be/aSK3pZiyV28

@Oct, interesting that you give 3 examples of 'we need to fix them', rather than looking at it as a 'we should ask them how we can help them fix themselves'. Define "them" in this context, because depending on who you ask in any particular nation you will get a wide variety of conflicting answers. ...

I guess the main question should be that of: "Why are there so many migrants, and what can be done to make them content where they are." I think orathaic said something like that. The trouble is, as the experience of recent history... and most of the rest of history for that matter... has taught us...

Er... Ora, tell me you're not struggling with this basic concept?

It is possible to believe both that someone should be allowed to eat what they wish, and that them eating a kilo of chocolate at once is a bad idea, at the same time. There is no contradiction.

Ora, you completely ignored my point that I believe nations should be allowed to run themselves and that I didn't see much that the US could do to improve matters, and went off on a bizarre little rant about racism because I think that the increasingly authoritarian Venezuelan government are doing a...

Seriously, if you think I've said something something the onus is on you to prove that I said it. Find the quote and paste it here. If not I'll thank you for not continually making up lies about me. I'd rather just try to forget that you exist. Then fuck off and stop replying to my comments. It ain...

Seriously, if you think I've said something something the onus is on you to prove that I said it. Find the quote and paste it here. If not I'll thank you for not continually making up lies about me.

I did not.

And quite why you have such trouble with supporting the Lib Dems after David Cameron I have no idea. They were in the same government, for crying out loud. There's very little difference between the right of the Lib Dems and centrist Tories, and I challenge you to argue otherwise. When the Lib Dems ...

Your ignorance is very much on display today, Jamie. I used to live there and know Venezuela's situation rather better than "misogynist white Jamie who knows best" Over the course of our debates you've been a Liberal Democrat David Cameron supporter who was also a Labour Party member who voted for ...

Define "America" for the purposes of this statement? The American government? The American people? The American media? Some Americans on the Internet? Clearly if any American sees it as a problem it is a problem for that particular American, but in the context of this discussion I'd have thought it...

Ah, I see. You really have completely abandoned any pretence of trying to engage in a mature debate. As you wish. I hope you find your peace one day.

It's a problem because America says it is. If they were to decide it wasn't then it wouldn't be, although I dare say a whole host of interesting new problems would rapidly develop if so. It's really quite simple. As for your second point, what we encounter to some extent is a conflict of principle. ...

I'm in favour of whatever helps the problem, be it a metaphor or otherwise. There's perhaps a valid argument that other solutions may be more cost effective, but it achieved a lot more than zero and provided a fair few well paid jobs whilst doing it. As for who pays for it, the existence of Mexico g...

Trump's wall was a remarkably effective tool to tackle the issue. Obviously the physical structure itself was rather limited, but the message it sent out, that illegal immigrants were very much not welcome, achieved a great deal. Biden could do a lot to reduce the problem by finishing the wall. Sadl...

Oh look, here is Octavious to pick some cherries. Cherry picking? There's a bloody tree full! Of course the writers of this report would count all the leaves as well and declare the tree "overwhelmingly fruitless" :razz: You conveniently missed the whole part where it identified that a lot of the r...

I don't give you 1 :-) In terms of your 2nd paragraph, you can indeed say defund the police, as the freedom to say stupid things is almost as important as the freedom to be wrong and, as in this case, they are one and the same. As for exterminating Muslims, the only people I have ever heard say that...

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Oh look, here is Octavious to pick some cherries.

Cherry picking? There's a bloody tree full! Of course the writers of this report would count all the leaves as well and declare the tree "overwhelmingly fruitless"

So a more honest interpretation of figures would be

The last year saw American cities hit by hundreds of violent protests in the name of Black Lives Matter, resulting in thousands of arrests and several deaths.