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by orathaic
Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:05 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: Freedom of speech
Replies: 11
Views: 83

Re: Freedom of speech

I couldn't read much of the article, but the ACLU has always been loyal to protecting the First Amendment. It's a shame that many within the organization are attempting to steer the boat exclusively to the left... The racists, misogynists, and bigots have rights under the First Amendment as well. T...
by orathaic
Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:12 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: Freedom of speech
Replies: 11
Views: 83

Re: Freedom of speech

And also about the example in the very first post, the child is not shaking in fear because what is being said Interesting, I didn't really think to distinguish between the content and the delivery. I may have to think about this one. But you are right. 'freedom of speech' is more than just speakin...
by orathaic
Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:51 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: Southern Boarder
Replies: 32
Views: 172

Re: Southern Boarder

Ora, you completely ignored my point that I believe nations should be allowed to run themselves and that I didn't see much that the US could do to improve matters, and went off on a bizarre little rant about racism because I think that the increasingly authoritarian Venezuelan government are doing ...
by orathaic
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:20 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Southern Boarder
Replies: 32
Views: 172

Re: Southern Boarder

So Oct, I know you seem annoyed that I called your BS out, but have you no responce to my clear claims that US intervention is bad, and has directly contributed to the reason for migrants wanting to move to where the wealth is?
by orathaic
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:24 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Southern Boarder
Replies: 32
Views: 172

Re: Southern Boarder

Just to cite a single example: In 1912, during the Banana Wars period, the U.S. occupied Nicaragua as a means of protecting American business interests and protecting the rights that Nicaragua granted to the United States to construct a canal there.[49] The intervention, utilizing the U.S. Marine Co...
by orathaic
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:06 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Southern Boarder
Replies: 32
Views: 172

Re: Southern Boarder

Matticus13 wrote:
Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:48 am
The current governor of Texas is pledging to build the wall in Texas with Texan taxpayer dollars. That's fine by me. I can get behind that.
Are you a Texan? Do you own any businesses in Texas which employs migrant workers? What problem is the Texan governor addressing by doing this?
by orathaic
Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:49 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Southern Boarder
Replies: 32
Views: 172

Re: Southern Boarder

Just for clarity, here is a map of US coups and attempted coups in the America's. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America#/media/File%3AUS-involvement-regime-change-Lat-Am.png The fact is, communisn brought Russia and China from agricultural backwa...
by orathaic
Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:26 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Southern Boarder
Replies: 32
Views: 172

Re: Southern Boarder

That is a weird dichotomy, you seem to know what is best for Venezuela, and yet whatever the US says is best for them is right. Almost like you are a closet racist who sees South American countries who vote for socialism as children who don't know how to govern themselves. As opposed to countries wh...
by orathaic
Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:57 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Southern Boarder
Replies: 32
Views: 172

Re: Southern Boarder

I'm in favour of whatever helps the problem, be it a metaphor or otherwise. What makes it a problem? Million emigrated from Europe to the US over the years, and the result was a net positive for the country. Many people in (for example) Texas employ migrant workers, and most free marketeers would s...
by orathaic
Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:25 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Freedom of speech
Replies: 11
Views: 83

Re: Freedom of speech

They sway the weak minded and now you have the January 6th rioters trying to get off on the Foxitis Defense where they were just doing what they had been indoctrinated by Fox News and Trump. Where such a defence is valid (if indeed it is) then it should be clear that the incites incited violence. B...
by orathaic
Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:37 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Freedom of speech
Replies: 11
Views: 83

Freedom of speech

"a belief in the centrality of free speech to American democracy contends with ever more forceful progressive arguments that hate speech is a form of psychological and even physical violence" From: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/us/aclu-free-speech.html I presume those of us who remember webdip...
by orathaic
Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:22 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Truth, Ignorance and Faith
Replies: 12
Views: 649

Re: Truth, Ignorance and Faith

So much there. I agree with you on abortion, but not on animal welfare. I don't think my standard of living has reduced by giving up meat, and as more people do so, and the demand for plant based products continues to increase, it becomes easier to access those products. Overall, I don't see that an...
by orathaic
Mon May 31, 2021 7:46 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: Truth, Ignorance and Faith
Replies: 12
Views: 649

Re: Truth, Ignorance and Faith

Thinking about it, there is a certain level of Ignorance in the first video. At first mathematician were ignorant of godel's incompleteness theorem (because it hadn't been written down), but they had this idea of a complete, consistent world described by mathematics. I guess it follows that a lot of...
by orathaic
Sun May 30, 2021 12:49 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Truth, Ignorance and Faith
Replies: 12
Views: 649

Re: Truth, Ignorance and Faith

There is an effort, that I have seen many times, to suggest that since maths (or science), can't answer everything...then I can disregard them when I feel like it. This is postmodernist nonsense. I can't disagree. There is a certain amount of postmodern sense, that all of science is a social constr...
by orathaic
Sun May 30, 2021 12:20 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Truth, Ignorance and Faith
Replies: 12
Views: 649

Re: Truth, Ignorance and Faith

I think my reason for linking them is that in the absence of proof (for example of the twin prime conjecture) you have to take it on faith. (Ok in mathematics, they might start with 'assume the twin primes conjectures; then...' and go on to prove other things. Which I guess isn't what most people wo...
by orathaic
Fri May 28, 2021 9:26 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: Truth, Ignorance and Faith
Replies: 12
Views: 649

Re: Truth, Ignorance and Faith

Western thought. I thought about it, and realised that my best attempt to describe it would be woefully inadequate. I would have said it starts with Greek philosophy and democracy (not modern Greece, but ancient city states). So you can't have a 'Western' nation without democracy, it seems pretty fu...
by orathaic
Mon May 24, 2021 11:05 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: Meanwhile another Palestinian Genocide brought to you by Israeli Fascists
Replies: 109
Views: 2623

Re: Meanwhile another Palestinian Genocide brought to you by Israeli Fascists

I know you are being either deliberately obtuse and ignorant, or simply trolling. But the claim is simy that bring anti-Zionist is not anti-Semitic. Repeating the smear doesn't make it any more true.
by orathaic
Mon May 24, 2021 9:16 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: Meanwhile another Palestinian Genocide brought to you by Israeli Fascists
Replies: 109
Views: 2623

Re: Meanwhile another Palestinian Genocide brought to you by Israeli Fascists

Do I remember correctly that Corbyn 'proved' his credentials by going to a major Jewish group who happened to share his anti-Zionist views and claimed that this anti-Semitism was in fact a a case of conflation(can't find a link right now).
by orathaic
Mon May 24, 2021 9:11 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: Truth, Ignorance and Faith
Replies: 12
Views: 649

Truth, Ignorance and Faith

For those without the ~70 minutes I will try to describe the 3 videos below. Truth: excellent story about how our fundamental ideas about truth and provability in mathematics was undermined (and incidentally the study lead to all of modern computing). How in the early 20th century mathematicians pro...
by orathaic
Mon May 24, 2021 8:54 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: Media bias
Replies: 2
Views: 409

Re: Media bias

Interesting position. I wonder if the lies of the Trump propoganda machine had a purpose. I know some people have described it as a fire hose of lies. When you constantly lie about everything, then one example like Putin becomes something people can talk about a lot. While missing what you are actua...