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by JECE
Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:34 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: What makes your life worth living?
Replies: 16
Views: 280

Re: What makes your life worth living?

@Octavious I understand you. Just one example of great philosophers, Socrates was not paid a cent for his philosophy, on the contrary, he was handed the cup hemlock mug and accepted it for his convictions. Philosophers are not a wage-writing profession like today, they are clowns. Everyone is a phi...
by JECE
Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:27 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: What makes your life worth living?
Replies: 16
Views: 280

Re: What makes your life worth living?

An honest question. Please explain your answer in detail. Be careful how you interpret the answers to your question, Tolstoy. You could talk to thousands of people and each one might give you a reason for living that doesn't quite sound right to your lived experience. (If you asked me, I might even...
by JECE
Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:00 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: What makes your life worth living?
Replies: 16
Views: 280

Re: What makes your life worth living?

I've had a look at a few scientific papers on the subject, and there doesn't seem to be any consensus of opinion regarding money and happiness. Whatever your views, there's a scientific study to back it up. I thought that there was a consensus about the importance of having enough resources to cove...
by JECE
Sun Sep 04, 2022 9:39 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Moderate scoring systems
Replies: 52
Views: 807

Re: Moderate scoring systems

JECE wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 5:23 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 2:52 pm
@JECE - I believe you mentioned that vDip has 0 SoS games running currently. This is correct, as vDip does not support SoS :lol:
Oops! Well good for webDip for not enabling SoS scoring, then. It would be as simple to implement as flipping a switch.
Um, good for vDip :lol:
by JECE
Sun Sep 04, 2022 5:23 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Moderate scoring systems
Replies: 52
Views: 807

Re: Moderate scoring systems

Bonatogether wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 2:52 pm
@JECE - I believe you mentioned that vDip has 0 SoS games running currently. This is correct, as vDip does not support SoS :lol:
Oops! Well good for webDip for not enabling SoS scoring, then. It would be as simple to implement as flipping a switch.
by JECE
Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:38 am
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Moderate scoring systems
Replies: 52
Views: 807

Re: Moderate scoring systems

RoganJosh wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:29 pm
Sure, there are good arguments in favor of DSS. All I'm saying is that "It's in the rulebook" is not one of them.
That might be true if the rules were never updated, but they have been updated several times since Calhamer wrote that article:
http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/diplomacy_rules.htm
by JECE
Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:33 am
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Moderate scoring systems
Replies: 52
Views: 807

Re: Moderate scoring systems

I will, however, reiterate my opposition to scoring systems where draws are not shared equally: The very first page of the rules demand that draws be shared "equally". Any evaluation of player performance (such as SoS scoring) that does not honor the requirement that draws be shared equally does no...
by JECE
Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:09 am
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Moderate scoring systems
Replies: 52
Views: 807

Re: Moderate scoring systems

I understood the webdip explanation I was just trying to confirm what system you are advocating for being (re)added to webdip. In case you had a change of opinion over the last decade :lol: Who knows, I might have proposed a tweak over the last decade, ha ha. In this thread I am talking about untwe...
by JECE
Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:38 am
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Moderate scoring systems
Replies: 52
Views: 807

Re: Moderate scoring systems

Thanks for acknowledging my perspective, Theodoric. One thing that I forgot to mention is that WTA scoring comes with the nasty side effect of players not playing for the win, given the perception that there is so much to lose. I find this behavior unfortunate given that it encourages ending games p...
by JECE
Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:17 am
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Moderate scoring systems
Replies: 52
Views: 807

Re: Moderate scoring systems

You're removing agency from the minor "great powers" in your analysis. In fact, I always had a blast joining PPSC games in progress with a marginal position. Check the "User Comment" on my webDip profile. Back then, when you joined a game in progress, you had to bet :points: by function of how much...
by JECE
Sat Aug 27, 2022 3:25 am
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Moderate scoring systems
Replies: 52
Views: 807

Re: Moderate scoring systems

(dang you've really been at this for 5+ years) It may be even longer, ha ha. In fact, I'm pretty sure that the debate is much older. It would have flared up twice. First when the default scoring system switched from PPSC scoring to WTA scoring, and second when the ability to use PPSC scoring was su...
by JECE
Sat Aug 27, 2022 3:18 am
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Moderate scoring systems
Replies: 52
Views: 807

Re: Moderate scoring systems

@JECE, having read a bunch of the old forum threads, I feel like I need clarification on the exact rules for your desired version of PPSC. Or which version you think is the best, if that differs from the version that you want brought (back) to WebDip? It seems like there are a bunch of different im...
by JECE
Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:40 am
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Moderate scoring systems
Replies: 52
Views: 807

Re: Moderate scoring systems

1) How can PPSC share points equally? Like what am I missing about your suggestion? It's called Point(s) Per Supply Center after all. Difference is built in. 1) You are perhaps relying on the explanation of PPSC that is currently on the website: https://webdiplomacy.net/points.php Unfortunately, th...
by JECE
Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:22 am
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Moderate scoring systems
Replies: 52
Views: 807

Re: Moderate scoring systems

Neither WTA scoring nor PPSC scoring violate the rules. PPSC scoring always awards nine seventeenths (an absolute majority) of the pot to players who solo, a clear win and therefore consistent with the rules. There is, however, no way to defend SoS scoring with the rulebook That's a very unique rea...
by JECE
Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:46 am
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Moderate scoring systems
Replies: 52
Views: 807

Re: Moderate scoring systems

This seems unrealistic in practice. If I get 33% of the pot in a 3-way draw, 47% of the pot if someone else solos and I end with 16 centers, 50% of the pot if I get a 2-way draw and 53% of the pot if I solo, it's clear that my top priority should be to make sure I end the game with two players. Of ...
by JECE
Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:59 am
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Moderate scoring systems
Replies: 52
Views: 807

Re: Moderate scoring systems

3) You seem like a pretty good internet sleuth. I'd actually appreciate it if you managed to dig up some of my pro-PPSC arguments on the old webDiplomacy Forum: https://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php Is there a search function for the old forum? I joined webdip after its prime. Unfortunately, no. This ...
by JECE
Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:33 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Moderate scoring systems
Replies: 52
Views: 807

Re: Moderate scoring systems

I think the main advantages that I care about for per-center instead of SOS are that it doesn't create incentives to care about the distribution of centers among other players, that it doesn't allow someone to get a majority of points without winning, and that it's more transparent. Sheesh, I'm gla...
by JECE
Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:30 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Moderate scoring systems
Replies: 52
Views: 807

Re: Moderate scoring systems

JECE, I wondering if you're misremembering that part of PPSC. PPSC rewards powers for letting someone else solo [/i]. There is always a points-incentive in PPSC scoring to go for a solo or a 2-way draw. Any player in a position to gain points by throwing the game and chooses to do so is governed by...
by JECE
Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:03 am
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Moderate scoring systems
Replies: 52
Views: 807

Re: Moderate scoring systems

I will, however, reiterate my opposition to scoring systems where draws are not shared equally: The very first page of the rules demand that draws be shared "equally". Any evaluation of player performance (such as SoS scoring) that does not honor the requirement that draws be shared equally does no...
by JECE
Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:45 am
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Moderate scoring systems
Replies: 52
Views: 807

Re: Moderate scoring systems

Hi JECE! I certainly understand your point that the rulebook clearly specifies that players split a draw evenly. That's a great reason to use draw size scoring. However, I'd note that the only way to play diplomacy on this site that's fully consistent with the rulebook is to play on the classic map...